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Old 05-19-2017, 08:59 AM   #21
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:34 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by Franklin View Post
We're not talking grip safety. The original form is WITHOUT Swartz. I don't think it's as big a deal as it was once thought. The titanium firing pin is a good idea, I'm sure you can easily install one. In my 50 years of handling guns, including the 1911, I've never seen a 1911 fire when dropped. This includes some OLD guns, some WWII and Korean vintage.
I realize this thread concerns the Swartz safety. Correct me if I am wrong but when you get rid of the swartz safety then Kimbers 1911's return to a Colt 70 series type 1911. When these firing pin block type safeties were first installed on Colts 80 series and Kimber's there was a lot of grumbling that it changed the way the trigger felt or worked. Now it seems that most do not think it makes a difference. Personally I think removing the Swartz is better in the long run. Reason: fewer moving parts less wear, fewer dreaded MIM parts.
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:45 PM   #23
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The original Browning design did not include the grip. That was an army requirement. Swartz was a Colt employee and there are commercial Colts 1930s that had the safety device he designed. If I recall my history correctly...

If Kimber went to a titanium 9mm firing pin (the breech face opening and pin head diameter are different-so no interchangeable with .45) as Springfield did, they could pass the CA tests and drop the II safety from all their guns.
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