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Old 07-15-2017, 10:56 AM   #1
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Question Wilson Combat Flat Wire Recoil Spring Kit in 9mm

Decided to go with a Wilson Combat Flat Wire Recoil Spring Kit.

My 9mm CDP Pro just continues having problems with "Stove Pipes".

Changed lubes. Changed amount of lubes.

Changed Ammo brands and bullet weights.

Constant problems with "Double Feeds" also.

Have let other shoot it.
Same occurrence. So its not the shooter.

Is not dependent on magazine.

Last option or it going back to Kimber.

Question to the Forum:
Which Kit do I need?

Flat-Wire Recoil Spring Kit | Compact | .38 Super-http://shopwilsoncombat.com/

or

Flat-Wire Recoil Spring Kit | 4 Compact-http://shopwilsoncombat.com/



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I was just on Wilson's website and my suggestion would be to call them and get there knowledge. I think either model may work and function. There me be a good reason for the 2 lb difference in the springs. Maybe the ammo you want to run determines which to use.
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Flatwire kit no 784 is the one they list.I installed this kit in my Aegis Pro and works great,really nice not having to use the L tool to field strip.I have fired 115g-124g-and 125g reloads with zero problems.Also it helps to use the Metalform mags with the Springfield feed lips-they are what I use and have had good operation.It is listed as the one with the 13 pound spring.
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What I have for the pro from Wilson is guide rod #p25wsr, reverse plug flush fit #p25wcfp, flat wire spring compact/professional 9MM 13# #651c13. When I ordered mine in 2015 they didn't have a kit just put one together with those parts, $46.89 plus shipping.
Works like a charm!
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Old 07-15-2017, 06:01 PM   #5
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Thanks Fellas!!!!!

Went to the range today armed with 100 rounds of Freedom Munitions 9mm Luger 147 gr RN New.

Fired 50 rounds and stopped.
40 of the 50 either "Stove Piped", "Stove Piped and Double Fed", and none locked the magazine back after last round.

Once again switched shooters. Same result....

All that being said ammo very accurate.

Magazines 1 Kimber and 10 from Joe's Mag Mania.

Upset to say the least.

Went to the Range counter and purchased 50rounds of Federal "White Box" 115 Grain FMJ.

Slow fire. Rapid fire. Firearm functioned perfectly!

Well I decided on 3 things.

1) ordered Wilson Combat Flat-Wire Recoil Spring Kit, 4" Compact/Professional .38 Super, Chrome Silicon, 15 Lb. This is 1lb. heavier than Kimber Factory 14 lb.
But calling Wilson to verify correct purchase.

2) The gun is going back to Kimber.
Any firearm this expensive should run on any ammo.

3) Calling Freedom Munitions re: 147 gain round nosed new ammo.
My personal feeling they are not providing sufficient charge for the 147 gain 9mm ammo.
This exact ammo has malfunctioned on 2 separate purchases.

But this exact ammo runs absolutely perfect in my Micro 9.
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Old 07-16-2017, 03:37 PM   #6
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Well return trip to the gun range.

Firearm:
2017 Kimber CDP Pro in 9mm.
Did not clean the Kimber from yesterdays trip.

Magazines:
1 Kimber and 10 from Joe's Mag Mania.

Ammunition:
100 rounds of Freedom Munitions 9mm Luger 124 gr RN New.
20 rounds of Federal HST 147 grain +P.
10 rounds of Freedom Munitions 9mm Luger 147 gr RN New.

Results:
100 rounds of Freedom Munitions 9mm Luger 124 gr RN New.
Absolutely Perfect.

20 rounds of Federal HST 147 grain +P.
Absolutely Perfect.

10 Rounds of Freedom Munitions 9mm Luger 147 gr RN New.
Same Results.

7 out of 10 rounds "Stove Piped."

2 out of 10 Shots both "Stove Piped and Double Fed."

1 out of 10 "Failure to Battery"

And once again slide would not lock open after final shot.

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"Failure to Chamber"."Failure to Battery

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First 20 rounds of Freedom Munitions 9mm Luger 124 gr RN New.


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Progression of Freedom Munitions 9mm Luger 124 gr RN New.


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20 rounds of Federal HST 147 grain +P.

Plan Still Holds True:
1) ordered Wilson Combat Flat-Wire Recoil Spring Kit, 4" Compact/Professional .38 Super, Chrome Silicon, 15 Lb. This is 1lb. heavier than Kimber Factory 14 lb.
But calling Wilson to verify correct purchase.

2) The gun is going back to Kimber.
Any firearm this expensive should run on any ammo.

3) Calling Freedom Munitions re: 147 gain round nosed new ammo.
My personal feeling they are not providing sufficient charge for the 147 gain 9mm ammo.
This exact ammo has malfunctioned on 2 separate purchases.
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3) Calling Freedom Munitions re: 147 gain round nosed new ammo ... This exact ammo has malfunctioned on 2 separate purchases.
Well that's a real bummer - curious to hear their response. I just received 10 boxes of it - no problems at all in either my new Raptor M9 or my P938. I wonder if they had an issue with a particular lot, or if it's all the same...? Here's what mine says on the box - I don't know how to break down their lot numbers:

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Crazy thing is; it runs in my Micro 9 CDP perfectly.

I've "broke-in 500 rounds" the Micro 9 exclusively with it.

And "Limped Along" and put 500 through the 2017 CDP Pro.

Total round count on the 1911 9mm is now 600.

Mine is the same.

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Old 07-19-2017, 02:59 PM   #10
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Wilson Combat Flat-Wire Recoil Spring Kit, 4" Compact/Professional .38 Super, Chrome Silicon, 15 Lb. is due just any minute.

Already have the CDP broken down and waiting.

Plus mags are filled once again with Freedom Munitions 9mm Luger 147 gr RN New.

Gun range here I come.

Hope this cures the ills.
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