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Old 04-29-2019, 04:24 AM   #1
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Range report Pro Carry II 9mm

So far I took it to the range three times. Around 650 rounds went through the barrel. Each time using the same four magazines. Two Wilson Combat, one Mec-gar and original Kimber magazine. Prior to shooting gun was cleaned and then lubed with FP10. During shooting I would apply few more drops of lubricant after around 100-150 shots fired. So far I only installed new MSH with mag well and changed grips.

Range session number one.
200 S&B FMJ 124 gr
Slide locked in the rear position, full magazine inserted, pressed slide release and FTF. After around 50-70 rounds had about two more FTF while shooting not loading a fresh magazine and I think two FTE. Brass was caught by the slide before it turned to a stovepipe position but it was already out of the chamber, not sure if this is actually FTE.

Range sesion number two.
100 S&B FMJ 124 gr and 50 Geco FMJ
Two FTF during shooting and one FTE. Once again brass out of the chamber but not a stovepipe.

Range session number three.
150 S&B 124 gr FMJ, 150 S&B 115 gr FMJ
First two or three full mags inserted on a locked in the rear slide would cause FTF after pressing slide release. Pretty sure that it was only happening on WC magazines. At around halfway mark right before lubricating about four FTF in two consecutive magazines, again WC. This could have been actually caused by a box of some old ammunition S&B 124 gr.
After this I took the gun apart and cleaned it. Last 150 rounds gun worked flawlessly so maybe its finally broken in but than again thats what I though after session number two.

What I noticed is that most of my FTF happen after around first 70-100 rounds. Except the FTF caused by full mag and pressing slide release.
I took a closer look at a barrel and feeding ramp could use some polishing. Barrel throat seems to be really tight and has some sharp edges that could be rounded up as well.
Bellow pic of one of the FTF and barrel. Let me know what you guys think.
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I'd be looking at the extractor.
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Old 04-29-2019, 06:46 AM   #3
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I'd be looking at the extractor.
Faulty extractor could be responsible for failures to feed?
And this actually reminded me about two casings to the face on the last range session
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I liked your post because you did such a good job of explaining things, even with pictures. Sorry to hear your Kimber is not running 100% out of the box (most do) but I am confident you are very close.

I will throw out my first thoughts. While it is not "wrong" to use the slide stop to load the weapon, many 1911 guys prefer to slingshot it. Try it, you might eliminate a bunch of your FTFs right there.

Not all members here agree with me on this, but IMO Kimbers come sprung pretty light from the factory. There is a good chance a Wolff recoil spring will also cut down or eliminate your FTFs. Kimber only recommends 800 rounds on the factory spring anyway, and you are already close to that, so I suggest you replace it with a Wolff XP.

Extractors and magazines are a huge deal with 1911s. If you are using WC magazines that probably is not it. Yes an extractor can cause FTFs if it is too tight. I doubt your extractor is too tight from Kimber but it is easy to check. If it is, gently bending it outwards a bit can make a world of difference.

Youtube is your friend on all that stuff, but I will see if I can find some links for you.

At the moment my bet it is the first two.
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Here's the extractor link but I still would suspect the first two.

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I will throw out my first thoughts. While it is not "wrong" to use the slide stop to load the weapon, many 1911 guys prefer to slingshot it. Try it, you might eliminate a bunch of your FTFs right there.
Most of the time I would perform the slingshot method but I believe that properly working gun should cycle even during slow controlled slide release and thats what I'm aiming for right now.

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Not all members here agree with me on this, but IMO Kimbers come sprung pretty light from the factory. There is a good chance a Wolff recoil spring will also cut down or eliminate your FTFs. Kimber only recommends 800 rounds on the factory spring anyway, and you are already close to that, so I suggest you replace it with a Wolff XP.
After 800 rounds I'm going to put in Wilson Combat flat wire recoil spring kit.
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Most of the time I would perform the slingshot method but I believe that properly working gun should cycle even during slow controlled slide release and thats what I'm aiming for right now.

When you use the slide stop to release the slide you're not using the full power of the recoil spring to chamber a round. Pulling back on the slide fully compresses the recoil spring so it will apply 100% of the power built into it.
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Check your mag before loading it into the gun. Had that first round hang up in my ProCarry too. Make sure that last round is seated all the way back in the mag so it doesn’t nose dive into the ramp. I don’t have a problem if I keep an eye on that. You’ll see it will stick nose up if seated all the way back, if not it will droop in the front.


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Originally Posted by SpecCop View Post
So far I took it to the range three times. Around 650 rounds went through the barrel. Each time using the same four magazines. Two Wilson Combat, one Mec-gar and original Kimber magazine. Prior to shooting gun was cleaned and then lubed with FP10. During shooting I would apply few more drops of lubricant after around 100-150 shots fired. So far I only installed new MSH with mag well and changed grips.

Range session number one.
200 S&B FMJ 124 gr
Slide locked in the rear position, full magazine inserted, pressed slide release and FTF. After around 50-70 rounds had about two more FTF while shooting not loading a fresh magazine and I think two FTE. Brass was caught by the slide before it turned to a stovepipe position but it was already out of the chamber, not sure if this is actually FTE.

Range sesion number two.
100 S&B FMJ 124 gr and 50 Geco FMJ
Two FTF during shooting and one FTE. Once again brass out of the chamber but not a stovepipe.

Range session number three.
150 S&B 124 gr FMJ, 150 S&B 115 gr FMJ
First two or three full mags inserted on a locked in the rear slide would cause FTF after pressing slide release. Pretty sure that it was only happening on WC magazines. At around halfway mark right before lubricating about four FTF in two consecutive magazines, again WC. This could have been actually caused by a box of some old ammunition S&B 124 gr.
After this I took the gun apart and cleaned it. Last 150 rounds gun worked flawlessly so maybe its finally broken in but than again thats what I though after session number two.

What I noticed is that most of my FTF happen after around first 70-100 rounds. Except the FTF caused by full mag and pressing slide release.
I took a closer look at a barrel and feeding ramp could use some polishing. Barrel throat seems to be really tight and has some sharp edges that could be rounded up as well.
Bellow pic of one of the FTF and barrel. Let me know what you guys think.
Find a good 1911 smith in your area.....I have a 9mm Ultra CDPII that I purchased used that had intermittent FTF's. I took it to Endeavor Arms in Prescott Valley, and for only a $90 action job, it is not only flawless in function, but the trigger is only slightly over 3 lbs........

YMMV
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Originally Posted by Teufelhunde View Post
Find a good 1911 smith in your area.....I have a 9mm Ultra CDPII that I purchased used that had intermittent FTF's. I took it to Endeavor Arms in Prescott Valley, and for only a $90 action job, it is not only flawless in function, but the trigger is only slightly over 3 lbs........

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Do you know exactly what work was done on your gun?

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