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Old 05-16-2019, 08:29 AM   #1
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A "pointed" (rifle like) defensive 9mm round - different!

I received some Angle Fire [defensive] rounds (bullet made by Fort Scott). The package says "Anglefire Ammunitions 9mm TUI 125gr". They are a solid pointed copper defensive round that tumbles upon impact (makes quite a nasty cavity in the testing videos I watched).

These are 125gr and apparently subsonic (980 fps). The whole intent was to find a round that resolved my occasional FTFs in my Micro 9 where the nose of the bullet would get hung up on the feed ramp but only when the 7rnd magazine was full. Subsequent rounds always seem to chamber fine. I have another thread talking about what I believe to be a bad Follower Design here.

I did my normal dry testing of 20 magazine loading tests. Took a fully loaded 7rnd magazine plus one in the chamber and dry manipulated the slide to feed the top round of a full magazine in. Then would reload the 7rnd magazine to full capacity and do it again (20 times total). When I would do this with hollow points, I would get 1-2 FTFs out of the 20 and I would also sense/feel 2 additional loadings that "stumbled" a little bit but managed to chamber anyway.

The results for this round were perfect. There were absolutely no FTFs, no "stumbles", everything chambered very smoothly. You could actually feel the increased smoothness of the round being chambered.

I have not fired them yet, but will soon to see how POA/POI is. At this point, I'm back to being "ok" with carrying 7+1 versus me taking my 7rnd magazine and carrying 6+1 (to mitigate the FTFs). As you can read in my other thread - my EDC (Micro 9) I'd only load 6+1 in my 7rnd magazine due to the FTFs that would happen 5-7% of the time when the magazine was full.

Just a side note... Anglefire is closing out their remaining inventory for this round (normally $22 for 20 rounds, priced at $13 till they're gone). Fort Scott will continue to carry this round though (but at full price).
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:24 AM   #2
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Those look interesting. Looking forward to hearing how they work
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For Sure! I just ordered some more, couldn't pass up the price. I'll report back once I get to the range.
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Interesting for sure... I wonder just what it is that will cause a bullet to tumble on impact, yet still fly true to the target.
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Interesting for sure... I wonder just what it is that will cause a bullet to tumble on impact, yet still fly true to the target.
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Anyone bought/shot Angelfire rounds? (I mean, regular ones?) The prices look pretty amazing for the .380s...
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