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Old 05-27-2014, 04:55 PM   #1
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Happen to you?

For three years my Ultra Carry II performed flawlessly... other than several FTE's that only happen when I'm shooting Wolf or S&B 230FMJ at the range and when I saw that it was time to change the recoil springs (used wolf std tension).
But the last 3 trips to the range has given me cause to wonder if I should continue to carry my Kimber. 1st time after flawless range use of 150 rounds of the Wolf FMJ, I get home and field strip the gun and I find the guide rod is loose in the head plate. I tighten it clean it check it and move along. Next range trip.... same thing happened 100 rounds at the range, strip and clean, guide rod loose again! But the 3rd time (last Sunday) I was shooting and not quite 100 rounds in... a Range Officer grabs my shoulder and said firm but polite "Stop and make safe your firearm" I eject the magazine and pull the slide back to eject the chambered round and whoa.... that did not feel right! The range officer hands me my guide rod and said "that came off your gun and landed behind you... at my feet!" I am at first stunned.. then annoyed... and now .... not trusting my much loved, carried every day, UC2. Today I called Kimber CS and spoke to a guy... and he said "use some blue or red loctite" If it gives you any more problems .... call us back! So.... I'm asking all you UC2 users... This ever happen to you? Loctite cure it? What else did you do? Thanks.
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Old 05-27-2014, 05:28 PM   #2
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First, welcome to the forum. I've never heard of the problem you experienced, but would imagine Locktite would solve it.
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Old 05-27-2014, 05:39 PM   #3
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Isn't the Wilson combat replacement a 1 piece rod?

see the flat spring kit.
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Sorry for your problem. I'm sure it's fixable.

Welcome to the forum, from Georgia.
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:09 PM   #5
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I'd clean the parts good and use loctite #271 (red) on it. The different colors of loctite denote their holding strength.

Almost forgot, welcome to the forum from northern Illinois.
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:36 PM   #6
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Now that is a weird one. I have never heard that one before.

Oh, welcome from Ohio.
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:10 PM   #7
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Welcome to the site from Tennessee! Glad everyone is OK. I bet a guide rod to the forehead would hurt like crap!
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:21 PM   #8
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Welcome to the forum from St.Lou.

I have been searching the gun sites for an hour and not one have had reports of this happening.
Explain to me where the rod would have the room to come out.
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:57 PM   #9
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Somewhere on this forum someone else had a case of the guide rod sticking out of the front after the slide cycled. It had come unscrewed from the base of the guide rod. It didn't come all the way out but would have. The only way it could come out would be out the front. I don't have an ultra but I assume they still have the base that rests against the barrel link. Even without that, the barrel link would keep the rod from coming out of the ejection port. The guide rod would probably be too long to come out of the ejection port anyway.

As others have said, Loctite on the threads should take care of it.
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:07 PM   #10
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I found it by searching this site for "guide rod" and found the thread. It is called "guide Rod Issues".....here is the key post:

I got it figured out. Disassembled it when got home and to my surprise the recoil spring rod unscrewed from the head guide. I brought it to my local shop where it was purchased and they went thru everything. We put some Loctite on the rod and head assembly and hopefully my baby is good to go. Gonna let it setup for a day and tear it down to clean. I think i'm going to snoop on Wilson Combat for an upgrade if possible. Thanks for the concern guys!
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