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Old 08-13-2014, 06:06 AM   #1
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Crimson Laser on my Ultra Covert II

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I just want to get some feedback. I have the handgrip Crimson on my Ultra Covert II and the rail mounted on my SOC... The laser on my SOC is crisp and clean. Perfect dot. The one on my Covert has laser spatter... In other words, it looks line a dot with stars around in like a comet exploded in the galaxy... Many many little laser dots like pin heads or smaller.

Called Kimber customer service. They said call Crimson because they are more qualified to help. I did and they said the lens is dirty and to clean it with the included swabs. I have done so but it still has spatter, just not as bad. But still, quite a bit and not like the SOC laser.

I'm very careful never to get any oils or cleaning fluids in there or anything else. I don't recall if it was like that when I got it.

She said once they get it back for repair, they'd have it a week or so and send it back. I'd hate like hell to loose the grips for possibly 2 weeks if there is something else I can do. While lasers are not any deal breaker, for the price, I'd still like them to function correctly..

Any similar experience, thoughts or feedback is appreciated. Thanks...
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Old 08-13-2014, 07:12 AM   #2
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I'd say send the grips back to CT, other then cleaning the lens there's not much else you can do. I had a Sig 1911 C3 with the CT grips and gave it to my son, I couldn't hit spit using the laser. Turned out he couldn't either and took the grips off the gun, LOL.
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Yea, I was doing further reseach and a lot of people say it won't go away including the ones that got replacements. They were no better. Just seems weird that the rail mounted ont he soc is perfect.
I'm not into lasers on guns without reason. But I love the digital grips on the covert which is 1/3rd the reason the gun caught my interest. Otherwsie I would have just got a Raptor... But as expensive as these lasers are, they should be perfect. Not crappy.
Guess I'll have to send it in which means no use me fav compact 45... Ugh.
BTW, I tried the lasers and they get you on target but annoy me. Too much movement. Especially at distance.
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Yea, I was doing further reseach and a lot of people say it won't go away including the ones that got replacements. They were no better. Just seems weird that the rail mounted ont he soc is perfect.
I'm not into lasers on guns without reason. But I love the digital grips on the covert which is 1/3rd the reason the gun caught my interest. Otherwsie I would have just got a Raptor... But as expensive as these lasers are, they should be perfect. Not crappy.
Guess I'll have to send it in which means no use me fav compact 45... Ugh.
BTW, I tried the lasers and they get you on target but annoy me. Too much movement. Especially at distance.
My son said he spent too much time chasing the laser, why not just take them off and put another set of grips on it? You're sending the gun back to the factory to have night sights installed have them slap on a set of grips at the same time, they have a nice selection in their shop.
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Yeah, I thought my grip/aim was steady as a rock until I got the CDPII with the laser. Now not so much.
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My son said he spent too much time chasing the laser, why not just take them off and put another set of grips on it? You're sending the gun back to the factory to have night sights installed have them slap on a set of grips at the same time, they have a nice selection in their shop.
Already has night sights. I would change the grips if I could find them in digital desert camo like on there. But I paid alot more than I would for the Raptor because of them. Otherwise, ditch them. If they can fix em, fine. If not, have to see if VZ has something similar.... (just realized what I said... Yikes! Going to look at their site now.. lol)...
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Yeah, I thought my grip/aim was steady as a rock until I got the CDPII with the laser. Now not so much.
After experimenting with lasers for years and trying to get people to realize that they are not what they seem, it's a fruitless adventure. Everyone goes by what they see in movies where the dot never or hardly moves. Not so...
At distance, the dot will grow as well as the further away from the focal point, moving a measly 1/64th of an inch seems like the laser dot is epileptic...
For short range, (unless on rifles), they are fine. Just don't expect your hand to not be shaking. Even more so in a defense situation where adrenaline runs wild.

I just want the extra $300~ to be worth the weight they put into it.
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There is no middle of the road with lasers. You either love them or hate them!! I had one installed on my Custom Stainless II.
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The owner of the LGS installed it and set the dot for me. Out to 25 yards, it was a guaranteed fact that the bullet was going to strike exactly where that dot was!!! I did have some issues with "splatter" of the dot. I used the provided swabs and alcohol to clean the lens. It took a number of times to finally get it clear, improving with each repetition (which gave me the incentive to continue).

While I found the laser to be a novel "toy" and fun to play with at the range, I never felt that it was a realistic sighting system for self defense. When I traded off the Stainless for a Pro Carry II, I opted for Trijicon night sights in lieu of the laser. I like them better and feel they are a more useful aiming device!!
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Just my 2 cents worth........YMMV!!!!!
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Like when we trained navagation on the water, we always emphasized not just learning electronics, because if they fail and you can't navagate by the stars, dead reckoning or old fashion compass, you are screwed. I'm a big fan of Trijicon HDs.... My old eyes like them better. Even if they die, (They'll last longer than me), I still have iron sights left over.
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Like when we trained navagation on the water, we always emphasized not just learning electronics, because if they fail and you can't navagate by the stars, dead reckoning or old fashion compass, you are screwed. I'm a big fan of Trijicon HDs.... My old eyes like them better. Even if they die, (They'll last longer than me), I still have iron sights left over.
What Bhunted said about eyes...........X2!!!!
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