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Old 04-29-2019, 04:28 PM   #1
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Sometimes you don't know what spoiled is until...

Every 45 I've had has been a Kimber with the exception of my first which was a Rock Island Armory I traded after a few months and a Detonics Combat Master (that I still regret selling to the point of tears) to get cash for my first Kimber, a Kimber SIS Custom. Anyway, I'd been toying with the notion of building a 1911 but doing a shopping cart at Brownells and Wilson Combat gave me pause.

Then it occurred to me, why not buy a cheap 1911 with the plan of upgrading... well... everything. A Tisas 1911 is not much more than a Caspian frame. So I picked up a Tisas 1911.

Don't get me wrong, I knew what I was getting into but all in all, it was a solid little unit after I did some trigger work but here's the range report.

First time out at the range with 250 rounds of 230 grain ball:

Front sight fell off. Uh... it was just gone. No idea where it went. Of course it went when I did a string of point and shoot double taps.

Plunger tube, rear stake gave allowing plunger to come out at an angle to the frame and lock the thumb safety into the safe position. Of course, the first mag where I racked the slide and automatically flipped up the thumb safety.. This happened at the range with a live round in the chamber after I did a trigger job before even test firing the pistol. I know! I got excited to tinker. Using a screw driver to push the plunger back, I of course slipped and scratched the slide.

Why do I go into all this Tisas stuff here? Well, it occurred to me after that I had never had issues like this with my SIS, Raptor or Super Carry because the standards are so much higher. You don't know what you got sometimes until you get a good feel of what's on the other side.

This girl isn't going anywhere though. She's my ugly side chick. Makes me question everything but it's so wrong to work on her, it's right!
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Old 04-30-2019, 04:15 PM   #2
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It really makes me laugh when someone on a forum will say something to the effect of my _______ is the same quality as your Kimber-Wilson-Springfield only a quarter of the cost.You never can tell until you start working on one of the budget guns and realize all the ways the factory uses to save money-thats why they are sold quite a bit cheaper.
But when a person buys the cheaper 1911 with the idea of starting a build it makes more sense.
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The quality of the steel in those imported budget 1911s typically isn't great either. They can make a decent running 1911...certainly not a Kimber by any means though.
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Update on the ugly side chick: I needed help, I should have been at a meeting, I wasn’t responsible; each post purchase, I chastised myself for taking the overall investment in the Tisas Frankenstein further but it keeps getting better.

I realized I haven’t updated this in a while so here we are. On a serious note, I have really enjoyed learning how to fit each part in. Accuracy and function is now over the top but the hours fitting and filing to get there are adding more appreciation to my out of the box Kimbers. It’s off having some Novak cuts milled for new sights, Dawson precision adjustable target sights. Other upgrades.

Wilson Combat guide rod
WC aluminum barrel bushing and recoil spring cap
Storm 6” threaded NM barrel
Hammer and strut (local old smith had this in a box of 1911 parts. An old Colt NM hammer?)
Grip safety (same old smith, same box, Pretty hip turn down tip that after fitting polished up nice.)
WC trigger
WC G10 grips
WC checkered front strap (feels and fits far better than you’d think it should)
WC complete spring set
Remington ambi thumb safety (I know! I started cheaping out here.)
Klonimus flared mag well

Pics coming as soon as she comes back which will also be with the frame Cerakoted tungsten. I stripped her down to the frame and went to town with some high temp ceramic engine paint, baking it on at 250 degrees for an hour. Both ideas seemed like good ones at the time. My wife is still unhappy and I feel I’m under surveillance anytime I go near the oven now. Paint just didn’t hold up which really surprised me. I will say that Aircraft Paint Stripper is nasty but crazy effective stuff! Updates to follow with pics soon.
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Old 08-02-2019, 05:43 AM   #5
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Update on the ugly side chick: I needed help, I should have been at a meeting, I wasn’t responsible; each post purchase, I chastised myself for taking the overall investment in the Tisas Frankenstein further but it keeps getting better.
I feel your pain, brother. Years ago I saw an ad in Shotgun News from this company called "Rock Island." The cost was $289, so I thought why not?

The intention was to completely refinish it. But it showed up nice enough that it would have been a shame to change the finish. I shot it for a while, then put it on a shelf. Eventually I did a trigger job, added an ambidextrous safety, stuck on some fiberoptics. The gun was as good as I could make it, but it was still just a Rock Island. It wasn't as good as an off-the-shelf Kimber, and wasn't as much fun to shoot.

I no longer "liked" the gun, and the sight of it always made me a little bitter, so a few months ago I sold it.
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I no longer "liked" the gun, and the sight of it always made me a little bitter, so a few months ago I sold it.
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I think practicing to advancing your gunsmithing skills on a cheap 1911 is a good idea. As you prefect them you can start working on your real guns. Honestly this is the way I advanced my ability to work on my own guns.
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