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Old 08-05-2015, 08:08 PM   #1
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Kimber Pro ll assembly question...

I have searched the threads and watched you tube videos and can not find the answer to my question. I have a new Kimber Tactical Pro ll. Got it yesterday and field stripped per the manual to clean it before it's first range trip with no issue. The problem came on reassembly. After completing reassembly and removing the tool the recoil guide rod spring was still compressed and I had to rack the slide real hard to get the guide rod and spring into proper alignment. This morning I did the same tear down and reassembly and all went without issue. After I returned from the range, field stripped and cleaned it I had the same issue, after getting the barrel aligned and inserting the slide stop pin, I took out the little guide rod tool and the guide rod stuck out the front end with the spring still in full tension. I racked the slide again several times really hard and everything found it's home place. There must be a way to avoid this. During reassembly I have the barrel all the way into the slide and the guide rod in a pretty rearward position. Should the guide rod maybe me more forward? Appreciate any help you can give.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:17 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Zoomybaby View Post
Maybe your putting spring on backwards. It has an open and a closed end. I noticed cleaning mine today the the closed end fits tighter than the other end, If it's installed backwards it may could cause that problem.
Thanks for the reply. I have not taken the recoil spring assembly apart but kept it captured with the "L" pin. I did find a video that looks like the barrel goes back as far as possible and the recoil spring assembly forward during assembly. I will try that in the morning and see if it solves my issue.
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Old 08-06-2015, 12:03 AM   #3
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The barrel should be all the way to the rear in the slide, with the locking lugs engaging the lock up slots milled into the slide. The recoil spring assembly should be placed all the way to the rear and up against the base of the barrel link. Once set up like this the slide can be installed on the frame, pulled back and the slide stop inserted through the frame and the link. Lock the slide to the rear and remove the disassembly tool. Then the slide can be released and the slide should then engage into battery under recoil spring tension.

The best possible answer to your issue is to replace the factory spring, guide rod and plug with a Wilson Combat Flat Wire Recoil Spring Kit. This little $50 gem allows for a no-tool disassembly of your pistol as well as the recoil spring lasting 10 times longer than a factory spring (rated at 800 rounds). I have one in my Pro Carry II and I wouldn't take a dozen factory springs in exchange for it. As for the L-shaped take down tool, I hung it on the wall at my work/gunsmithing bench. Every time it catches my eye, I chuckle at the fact that I no longer need it!!! If you are interested in the Wilson Flat Wire spring kit check out:

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The kit can be ordered through my close, person friend, Larry Potterfield, at MidwayUSA. ("Thanks for your business!")

Assemble as noted or replace the spring, which ever you choose, let us know how it works out for you.
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Originally Posted by Zoomybaby View Post
Maybe your putting spring on backwards. It has an open and a closed end. I noticed cleaning mine today the the closed end fits tighter than the other end, If it's installed backwards it may could cause that problem.
Zoomy, john1373 has a Pro size gun, the recoil spring assembly you have pictured is for an Ultra size.
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Originally Posted by Chuck43 View Post
Zoomy, john1373 has a Pro size gun, the recoil spring assembly you have pictured is for an Ultra size.
I didn't notice that, sorry. I do remember yesterday when I was cleaning my kimbers that the springs where sticking to the guild rod, I thought maybe it would make a difference which direction it was Installed. One end is closed and one is like it's just been cut off and left open. That's really what I was trying to show in the picture. It may not make any difference.



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I also started oiling my guide rod so the spring can move more freely




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I also started oiling my guild rod so the spring can move more freely
You mean you now have a free range guide rod? Is that like a free range chicken???

I'm with you, Zoomy!!! Let's take a stand!!!!


FREE THE GUIDE RODS!!!!
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The barrel should be all the way to the rear in the slide, with the locking lugs engaging the lock up slots milled into the slide. The recoil spring assembly should be placed all the way to the rear and up against the base of the barrel link. Once set up like this the slide can be installed on the frame, pulled back and the slide stop inserted through the frame and the link. Lock the slide to the rear and remove the disassembly tool. Then the slide can be released and the slide should then engage into battery under recoil spring tension.

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That did the trick, thank you.
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Originally Posted by lineman73 View Post
You mean you now have a free roaming guide rod? Is that like a free roaming chicken???

I'm with you, Zoomy!!! Let's take a stand!!!!


FREE THE GUIDE RODS!!!!
I have been oiling my guide rod long before I even owned a gun.



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Originally Posted by Zoomybaby View Post
I have been oiling my guide rod long before I even owned a gun.
OOOPs oh no he didn't!

I have always put a little Breakfree on the guide rod.
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