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Old 02-12-2014, 09:35 AM   #1
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What do you consider "good shooting"

Let's be clear, I am a crappy shooter. But then, what is a crappy shooter? What is a good shooter? I'm 60+ years old, been around guns since high school days. Long guns aren't a problem. Pistols, that's a different story. I think I need coaching by a professional.

So, everyone is welcome to give their $0.02 on the subject, but I'm particularly interested in the comments of long-time, proficient shooters.

1. Short comment on your shooting history

2. What gun your shoot (mostly)

3. What style of shooting; defensive slow shooting practice, bullseye, IDPA, ???

4. Qualify your expectation of good shooting; 4" circle at 7 yards, 10 yard, 15 yards, 25 yards?

5. Is it reasonable for weekend shooters to expect 'mickey ears' patterns when they shoot or is a 4" or 6" group acceptable. (may be person choice here)

At my current level, if I can keep most of my shots in a 6" circle at 10 yards I think I've had a pretty good day. I may be lying to myself, or I may be ok. Don't know.

What makes you happy at the range?
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Old 02-12-2014, 10:15 AM   #2
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I too am 60+. I've been around firearms most of my life. Since you are a weekend shooter punching holes in paper, practice the fundamentals every time you go to the range. Practice is the only way you'll get better.
I don't concern myself much with groups. I shoot a lot of steel plates. I also participate in local "combat" matches which are not affiliated with and of the national stuff(IDPA,USPSA,etc). There are also a couple of rimfire leagues, and bowling pin matches.

As to the guns I shoot. Rimfire to shotguns. I probably shoot one of my .22's more then anything else
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Old 02-12-2014, 10:48 AM   #3
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Like both of you I am past 60 and as long as I can keep my shots where they would hit someone at 30 feet or so I am happy. that said I can still keep most shots under 4" at 25 feet.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:36 AM   #4
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I am 63 and have been around rifles, shot guns, .22 (my favorite), 30-30s, .308 as long as I can remember. Always messed around the revolvers but never took it seriously until 10 years ago. I think you have to have realist expectations on what you want to accomplish. For example, a 3" barrel defense gun should be able to keep your shots within 6" at 21'. That's proficient for self defense. IMO.

A 4" barrel gun should be able to do a 4" pattern at 21'. A 5" barrel is 4" at 50'.

If you want to shoot in competition all bets are off. You will need lots of practice and some serious instruction to be proficient. Shooting a pistol at25 yards is fun just to see how good you are but really has no practical application unless you shoot in competition. Most of us around are concerned about self defense, I think.

I don't know if any of my rambling makes sense to you, or anyone else. Don't to hard on yourself. Get a lesson from a qualified instructor and tell him what your expectations are. Even golf pros have swing coaches why shouldn't we get help from time to time on our shooting technique?

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Old 02-12-2014, 11:37 AM   #5
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In my early 40s here and I try to shoot at least a 100 rds a week at the local indoor range. I shoot both a Glock 19 and Kimber Pro II, 50 rds off of each. My weekly goal is improvement and then consistency. I am realistically shoot a 4" group at 7yds with the occassional flyer hopping outside the circle. As long as I am seeing improvement from week to week I am happy. My EDC is my Kimber and one thing that I often think about is I am shooting target ammo, usually 230gr FMJ and my defensive carry ammo is Critical Duty +p at 220gr. How much difference will a hotter load and a little lighter projectile make?

I too have been shooting firearms for quite some time; started around 6 y.o. or so as a hunter's buddy in South Eastern CT.
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I'm in my 70's and I guess I started shooting about 65 years ago. At one time or another I've tried it all and hunted everything but sheep, never could get lucky enough to draw a tag. I quit competitive shooting when they started closing all the clubs and ranges around me. Today I shoot mostly handguns and get out about once a week, I usually fire about 200 rounds before I get tired and go home. I will fire 100 - 150 aimed rounds at various ranges out to 25 yards in order to maintain an edge in order to beat my son and daughter in law when we're all shooting together. The rest will be fired point shooting out to 10 yards maximum. That is my defensive practice for when the SHTF in the middle of the night and my bifocals have been knocked to the floor getting my .45 out of the night stand. If I can't keep all rounds fired point shooting in a 8" circle I'm having a bad day. I always take one of my Kimbers to the range and will rotate out a .41 mag, .357mag or .357 Herrett with it. I'd love to shoot the .22 Kimber conversion kit I got for my birthday last year but I haven't seen a box of .22's on the shelf in any of our gun stores in almost 2 years.
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I didn't really get into shooting until after I got married. Sure, I shot some .22's in Boy Scout camp, and had BB and pellet guns, but no firearms until later.

I like different kinds of guns. A lot of times, what I shoot is really dependent on how easy it is to clean, lol. I shoot handguns, rifles, shotguns. I like them all. only target shooting, or clays. I'm not a hunter.

My carry gun is a Walther P99AS. If I can get all my shots in a 4" circle at 10 yards I'm really happy with it.

I really like to get out and shoot for the peace and quiet (sounds funny, huh?) and for the relaxation. It's good totake my mind off ofstuff and concentrate on one thing. I like to shoot by myself.
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I first became a LEO at 23 yoa and my weapon was a model 19 S&W .357.I shortly thereafter was hired by a larger dept.and was issued a S&W model 15 .38 revolver.In 1990 we transitioned to Sig P-226 in 9mm.What a great gun that was.I carried that until retirement in 2001 and kept that gun.Because of my LEO history I train for defensive shooting.Usually between 1-15 yards.In all likelihood if you ever have to use deadly force it will be up close and personal.All my targets are the size of an adults torso.I am happy if I can repeatedly strike these targets fairly quickly.I've been training like this for 35 years now,so Iguess I won't change.I'm a little younger than most of you as I am just pushing 58.
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I use 100yd. 22 rifle targets they measure 11"x14" at 10 yards. as long as all rounds are on that target I'm a happy camper.
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Originally Posted by MPO Southy View Post
I first became a LEO at 23 yoa and my weapon was a model 19 S&W .357.I shortly thereafter was hired by a larger dept.and was issued a S&W model 15 .38 revolver.In 1990 we transitioned to Sig P-226 in 9mm.What a great gun that was.I carried that until retirement in 2001 and kept that gun.Because of my LEO history I train for defensive shooting.Usually between 1-15 yards.In all likelihood if you ever have to use deadly force it will be up close and personal.All my targets are the size of an adults torso.I am happy if I can repeatedly strike these targets fairly quickly.I've been training like this for 35 years now,so Iguess I won't change.I'm a little younger than most of you as I am just pushing 58.
I like your approach to training!
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