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Old 11-23-2016, 07:36 AM   #1
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'Calexit': Proposal submitted for California to secede from US

'Calexit': Proposal submitted for California to secede from US

Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:35AM

SACRAMENTO, Calif. --
A group calling for California to secede from the United States submitted a proposed petition Monday seeking a ballot measure that would strip the state constitution of language that says California is an inseparable part of the nation.

The Yes California Independence Campaign hopes to put a question on the November 2018 ballot authorizing a vote on independence in spring 2019.

The group proposed the secession idea more than two years ago, but the so-called "CalExit" movement gained serious traction on social media after Republican Donald Trump won the presidential election.

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Group Vice President Marcus Ruiz Evans said the organization now has 15,000 Twitter followers, 30,000 Facebook followers and 13,000 volunteers who have signed up to collect signatures for the effort.

He said the election of Trump proved proponents' point that working within the current electoral system is not sufficient to generate serious change.

The attorney general's office will review the request and submit language for a title and summary that would allow the group to begin collecting signatures for an initial referendum.

The final results of the election earlier this month will determine how many signatures the group will need to place its measure on the 2018 ballot.

The U.S. Constitution does not provide for state secession.

Experts say the only way to legally secede would be to change the federal Constitution, which requires the approval of Congress and 38 states.

But Ruiz said if 55 percent of voters approved a referendum on the issue, proponents hope to make their case to the United Nations under its treaty on self-determination.

He said that threshold would constitute an internationally recognized threshold requiring the governor to apply to the U.N. for "the Republic of California" to become a member of the U.N.

"We know that you don't just vote and that it happens. This would be to start the conversation," he said. "You have to have something where you say this is what the public wants."

The group tried unsuccessfully to put several initiatives on the ballot this year, including a proposal to declare California a separate nation, to rename the governor the "president" of California, and to fly the California state flag atop the United States flag.

Those signature-gathering efforts fizzled.

Repeated attempts to create a 51st state in Northern California, named the State of Jefferson, have also failed. That movement generally draws more conservative supporters who are dissatisfied with California's dominance by Democrats.

Still, Ruiz said State of Jefferson supporters are welcome in the CalExit movement, which would also shift many powers to county-level governments that he said are more in line with local residents' wishes.

The group moved up its original plan to ask voters to approve a referendum in 2020 because of the interest following Trump's election over Hillary Clinton, Ruiz said.

Backers expect to begin collecting signatures after Trump's January inauguration.
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Don't let an Earthquake hit you in the Fault Line on the way out... lmao!
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Maybe they'll secede from the union to become part of Canada. That way those whiny bleeding heart liberal's will not have to drive so far. But on second thought I don't even think the Canadians would want California's gun laws.
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Old 11-23-2016, 12:27 PM   #4
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Hell, some of us have been wanting Texas to secede for years. No luck yet, but we keep hoping!
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Just when I was planning to pack up and move to the Republic of Texas, Trump wins and the commies threaten to leave on their own. What a wonderful way to end the year.
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I think these clowns are just looking for participation trophies. Unfortunately, they're dragging all the law-abiding down the rabbit holes with them!
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Old 11-23-2016, 01:32 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by speedydg13 View Post
I think these clowns are just looking for participation trophies. Unfortunately, they're dragging all the law-abiding down the rabbit holes with them!
All you good folk should move to Arizona. Once the People's Socialist Republic of California collapses under its own economic burden, y'all can move in and get it back for cheap. Plus you can boot out all the air-head politicians and start over.
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This sure would be something to see.......Let them secede...then we take them back over and start all over.
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Group Vice President Marcus Ruiz Evans said the organization now has 15,000 Twitter followers, 30,000 Facebook followers and 13,000 volunteers...
Wow, that's .0002% of the U.S. Population!... good luck with that.
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I got no problem burning the republic of California flag, you start trying to fly that gay bear over old Glory and it's gonna happen.
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