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Old 02-10-2018, 05:43 AM   #1
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Recognizing concealed carry permits across state lines

A bill moving through Congress could make state-issued concealed carry permits recognized nationwide. Law enforcement in states with more stringent permit requirements says it's a dangerous idea.

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Old 02-10-2018, 05:51 AM   #2
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First off, it would not make things more dangerous in the states with strict CCW. A citizen with a CCW in his or her state, is no less a citizens in other states in the U.S. The problem is the liberal law makes that do not want this to happen.
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Old 02-10-2018, 06:16 AM   #3
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I'm not saying it CAN'T happen but I don't see it getting through the Senate. It seems like an issue ultimately for the Supreme Court, state vs federal question??? I've advocated a "national standard", a national CCW would almost have to incorporate one I would think?
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This idea reminds me of a 1966 Clint Eastwood movie called "The Good the Bad and the Ugly" and I'll believe it when/if it happens.

It could be "good" in some ways, "bad" in other ways, but it's going to get "ugly" before it ever becomes law. There's going to be too many cooks in the kitchen as they say and trying to prepare a meal that all of us like will be difficult to say the least.
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This idea reminds me of a 1966 Clint Eastwood movie called "The Good the Bad and the Ugly" and I'll believe it when/if it happens.

It could be "good" in some ways, "bad" in other ways, but it's going to get "ugly" before it ever becomes law. There's going to be too many cooks in the kitchen as they say and trying to prepare a meal that all of us like will be difficult to say the least.
I would ask you what "the bad" would be with the law passing?
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I would ask you what "the bad" would be with the law passing?
An agreement on mag capacity across the states for one. I don't want some elected officials from unfriendly gun states wanting us here in the Show Me State to have a mag limit at 7 rounds. My permit will allow me to cross into 39 states and I have no desire to visit NY, California or New Jersey. As long as they leave our current states laws alone then I think reciprocity could work, but I don't believe that will happen and that's just my opinion.
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One of my favorite comments was from ChattanoogaPhil on another thread about this same topic. He said,

I'm against this national reciprocity scheme.

If signed into law it will be immediately stayed by a conga line of left-wing kook judges. Arguments will include that the Federal government cannot force states to allow entry of untrained gun-toting morons from Georgia endangering the lives of their citizenry. Then comes Schumer and the rest of the Washington anti-gun crowd with national mandatory training standards and other standardized schemes for permit issuance. No thanks.

Most of the offending anti-gun states that currently won't enter into a reciprocity agreement with other states don't give a rats ass what the Feds say (think sanctuary policies) so I would never consider carrying into those anti-gun jurisdictions anyway. Proceed at your own peril.

Bottom line... it's gateway for Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi to meddle with your carry permit. I've expressed my displeasure with the NRA for supporting it

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Originally Posted by Chuck43 View Post
A bill moving through Congress could make state-issued concealed carry permits recognized nationwide. Law enforcement in states with more stringent permit requirements says it's a dangerous idea.
It's interesting that 60 Minutes would write on this without going into some kind of leftist frenzy. If THAT can happen, ANYTHING can happen.

I fully support the philosophical drive behind such a bill, but I'm skeptical of the potential ramifications. For instance, suppose you like to conceal your AR15 pistol with it's forty round magazine. Even with national reciprocity, I doubt you'd be able to legally carry it in New Jersey and California. We all know that politicians like to make deals. Suppose that your Senators amended the reciprocity bill to include a national limit on magazine capacity? Such a deal is much more probable than passing a bill that purely allows national reciprocity. Be careful what you ask for.
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You have to learn to walk before you can run, I think a good start would be passing this bill that would make states recognize your carry permit.

For example my Illinois permit is not recognized in the state of Colorado right now. If the bill is passed then Colorado would be forced to honor it. If I had to abide by their local laws when visiting there then so be it, it's better then not being able to carry at all.
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A bill moving through Congress could make state-issued concealed carry permits recognized nationwide. Law enforcement in states with more stringent permit requirements says it's a dangerous idea.
I challenge them to compare violent crime statistics between the various States. IMO, these "stringent" States are suffering from an irrational fear that law abiding citizens will suddenly become crazed killers rather than lawful defenders of themselves and others.
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