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Old 04-01-2019, 06:42 AM   #1
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The story is a s crazy as a Madison socialist.

I read this article, and I think it's nonsense, and probably penned by a guy whose last pistol was a cap-gun.

The premise of the article is that big bullets result in big statistics, and smaller bullets mean smaller statistics.

Well, here's the fly in the ointment. Ever hear of a group of handgun enthusiasts called "The Mafia"? They use cheap .22LRs almost exclusively for hits.

To that, if I do not sell my Kimber .45 ACP, I'm going to install the .22LR conversion kit. I'm in the most danger in urban settings. I want to have the bullets stay in the body of the attacker. Here's my take: Practice, practice, practice!

If you use a heavy caliber at close range, and it perforates the attacker only to hit an innocent bystander, you have major legal problems.

I believe in this concept, and I have converted to carrying a SW 642 and a P238. If you cannot protect yourself and family with handguns like that, you should just revert to a baseball bat...

Heck, I'd go to Joyce's Schrade!

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Old 04-01-2019, 04:57 PM   #2
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I dunno man, I grew up shooting cans. The .45 knocked them over, the .22 went right through...
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I think my 8 steel plates would love some 22 compared to the 45. 45 sometimes knocks the plates clean off the hooks.


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I dunno man, I grew up shooting cans. The .45 knocked them over, the .22 went right through...
Fair enough. The guy that was my best man took a rookie shooting with him. My friend thought he had all the "safety issues" discussed.

The rookie points the Ruger .22LR pistol down at the ground--but leaves his finger inside the trigger-guard, not along side the frame.

A shot goes off.

Guess what? There are "four holes" in his foot. Two going in and down, and the other two from 'ricochets' of the .22 slug bouncing off his Vibram soles making two more upward holes. Bizarre incident!

Weird stuff can and does happen. However, even with centerfire rounds, the fatality rate is usually under 50%. The .22 rounds depend on marksmanship--and as I said, like a determined Mafioso.

A cop named Evan Marshall actually kept records of the calibers used and the one-shot stops. The reason I know about these parameters is that I read his stuff in the 1980s.
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Indeed. I don't think we're actually at odds here, for some reason I just naturally gravitate to the Devil's Advocate position on... just about everything. Ignoring it is a daily struggle.
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Old 04-02-2019, 05:22 AM   #6
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I don't think we are at odds, either. Topics like this have sold a lot of gun magazines over the decades.
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