Originally Posted by Mike240
The SPLC was used as an example not the solution.
When a white Christian yells hate speech loud and long enough that someone in the audience takes action; that speaker is usually the victim of some court or government agency action.
But when a Lets say radical Muslim cleric, representing an organization who openly preaches jihad; sparks an individual or group of members/followers into action (ie act of terrorism)-no one does anything to the group.
Desperate treatment and application of the free speech principle.
If one is racist fine. I don't care. We all have prejudices. Want to say to the masses you're a racist? Fine. There is a difference in that and being incitful. Metzger incited the young usually runaway screwed up disenfranchised disenchanted white men with hate filled brainwashing rhetoric so they would do violent acts but afford him plausible deniability.
And the forces cam after him.
And to the leaders of CARE and MB and radical clerics? Hell Sharpton for that matter ..... Ah yep crickets.....
I’m not so sure . . . Dylann Roof and Timothy McVeigh are a couple of examples of Christians who became radicalized by listening to hate speech, and the speakers were not, and will not, be prosecuted, AFAIK
Unfortunately, you live in a country with a Constitution that includes a Bill of Rights that guarantees freedom of speech. The Muslim clerics can no more be prosecuted for what they say than can the KKK, the Aryan Nations, the American Communist Party or Neo Nazis like WAR. In our country, it is not against the law to say
something. It is against the law to do
I’m not sure the membership knows much about the Metzgers and WAR (White Aryan Resistance), or that one of the Metzgers (Tom) was a former Grand Wizard of the KKK, but here is a brief description of the event that seems to have you a bit riled up:
“On November 13, 1988, three white Aryan supremacists who were members of East Side White Pride, which allegedly had ties to WAR, beat to death Mulugeta Seraw, an Ethiopian man who had moved to the United States to attend college. In October 1990, the Southern Poverty Law Center won a civil case on behalf of the deceased's family against Tom and John Metzger, for a total of US$12.5 million. The jury awarded the figure based on: Kyle Brewster- $500,000, Ken Mieske-$500,000, John Metzger-$1,000,000, WAR-$3,000,000, Tom Metzger-$5,000,000, and the jury awarded $2.5 million for Mulugeta's unrealized future earnings, and pain and suffering. The SPLC did not charge for their work, and the Seraw family did not share any money won with the SPLC. The Metzgers did not have millions of dollars, so the Seraw family only received assets from the Metzger's $125,000 house and a few thousand dollars. The Metzgers declared bankruptcy, but WAR continued to operate. WAR continued to publish a newspaper despite the verdict. Metzger launched a website in 1997 and had an Internet radio program. The cost of trial, in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, was absorbed by the SPLC and the Anti-Defamation League.
WAR has been associated with dangerous individuals throughout its existence. WAR was mentioned in the press when it was revealed that a member threatened Rhode Island video stores which carried Jungle Fever. In 1994, Richard Campos, a WAR sympathizer, was convicted of racially motivated bombing plots. Calls were made stating that the bombings were perpetrated by an organization called the Aryan Liberation Front, of which Campos was the only member. In early 1995, Campos was sentenced to the maximum term of 17 years in prison.”
Note that the WAR lawsuit by the SPLC was as civil case, and not a criminal case. Note also that the damages were awarded by a jury of American citizens, and not by a judge or a part of the government. Conspiracy to commit a crime is not protected free speech under our system of laws. Sonny Barger found that out in the 1980’s, and the Metzgers found it out in 1990. White Aryan Resistance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Are you advocating for the White Aryan Resistance, Mike? Just curious.
This is the Logo of WAR.