america-doesnt-have-gun-problem - Kimber Forum

Kimber


Go Back   Kimber Forum > Off Topic Area > Off-Topic Discussion Forum

Like Tree17Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-10-2016, 11:18 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 384
america-doesnt-have-gun-problem

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/1715...iel-greenfield
Hoffbrew likes this.
__________________
A 9mm may expand but a ..45acp never shrinks.

Last edited by 1911fan; 01-10-2016 at 11:22 AM.
1911fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Remove Ads
Old 01-10-2016, 11:21 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Mike240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,703
Hmmm. Didn't work for me. Is cut and paste allowed?
__________________
Yea. Keep telling yourself that split times donít matter.
Mike240 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2016, 11:23 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 384
It works now
__________________
A 9mm may expand but a ..45acp never shrinks.
1911fan is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 01-10-2016, 11:58 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Jflytle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Northern ILL
Posts: 3,577
An old article (2012), but the logic still holds. Last year Chicago was the winner for most murders and the majority were gang related, black on black. Yet Oblamer and friends want to come after us.
1911fan likes this.
Jflytle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2016, 12:16 PM   #5
Super Moderator
 
Chuck43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 32,375
Originally Posted by Mike240 View Post
Hmmm. Didn't work for me. Is cut and paste allowed?

Yes Mike, it's allowed.
__________________
BOTH POLITICIANS AND DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON!
Chuck43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2016, 12:32 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Marshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Cardinal Nation
Posts: 19,269
Just like many cities in America the Lou has a gang issue and out of the 200 homicides last year most of them were on gang turf...

I'm in "the hood" quite often with my job and you can see it just by the colors the bangers are wearing...Blue for the Crips & red for the Bloods..

Now city hall will make a statement on "How Black Lives Matter" and it's just a dog n pony show to make people think they give a rats ass about it...In reality, the bangers are on the north side of the city which is nothing but Sec 8 housing and slums and if they want to kill each other off who cares...Now if they come south of downtown into the nicer part of our town, then the po po will make an effort to do something about it..

They're saving taxpayers money by not being behind a cell door and buried with the help of a "Go Fund Me" account set up for the funeral costs...

Don't think that it will get better anytime soon....For every thug that's killed, another dozen or so are born into a fatherless world and will be on the streets banging in 12-13 years....... JMHO
Marshall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2016, 02:54 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 384
Jeff, I have to testify both for and against some of the type people you mention. No father, not really a family, being raised by aunts, grandmothers or even living with some fellow gangbangers.

They are not smart enough to know their lifestyle is not productive and will kill them off early. They do not mind going to jail because they live better in jail than on the streets.

If one thinks about it, the Government vote buying plans keep these people in this setting. They grew up in Section 8 housing, getting food stamps and welfare. Their parents also grew up in the same manner. What education they got was not enough to inspire them to seek better in life. After all, they do not know any better and has not experienced anything other than what they had in life. Nor have they been exposed to much better in life other than what they see on tv.

What they feel they need in life, they steal, Life does not matter to them because they do not have any real life. They develop a "You owe me" mentality and it never changes. Few ever get out of the lifestyle.

It is difficult to tell them to remain in school and go to college so they can make something of themselves. Few do, most do not. It is hard for them to understand why they should when Little Johnny dropped out of school in the 8th grade and is now making $2,000 daily selling drugs for some rich guys that never see jail time.
__________________
A 9mm may expand but a ..45acp never shrinks.
1911fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2016, 11:27 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Nevada
Posts: 2,446
Originally Posted by 1911fan View Post
Jeff, I have to testify both for and against some of the type people you mention. No father, not really a family, being raised by aunts, grandmothers or even living with some fellow gangbangers.

They are not smart enough to know their lifestyle is not productive and will kill them off early. They do not mind going to jail because they live better in jail than on the streets.

If one thinks about it, the Government vote buying plans keep these people in this setting. They grew up in Section 8 housing, getting food stamps and welfare. Their parents also grew up in the same manner. What education they got was not enough to inspire them to seek better in life. After all, they do not know any better and has not experienced anything other than what they had in life. Nor have they been exposed to much better in life other than what they see on tv.

What they feel they need in life, they steal, Life does not matter to them because they do not have any real life. They develop a "You owe me" mentality and it never changes. Few ever get out of the lifestyle.

It is difficult to tell them to remain in school and go to college so they can make something of themselves. Few do, most do not. It is hard for them to understand why they should when Little Johnny dropped out of school in the 8th grade and is now making $2,000 daily selling drugs for some rich guys that never see jail time.
I'm not disputing anything you have said in this post, fan. I'm sure it is all true.

But tell, me -- what is the solution? What would you do that the Government is not currently doing to resolve this problem that is plaguing our cities, and is spreading to the suburbs? Is there a solution?



__________________
Richard
NRA Life Member - 1982
Richard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2016, 12:05 PM   #9
Super Moderator
 
Chuck43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 32,375
Originally Posted by Richard View Post
I'm not disputing anything you have said in this post, fan. I'm sure it is all true.

But tell, me -- what is the solution? What would you do that the Government is not currently doing to resolve this problem that is plaguing our cities, and is spreading to the suburbs? Is there a solution?
Put a time limit on the subsidies, we put a roof over their head, give them money, health care, food stamps, cell phones, offer schooling and it just goes on forever. Why should they look for work if they know the government will continue to give them more money every time they have another baby? Or as one guy once said to me and I don't remember the numbers he used but it went like this. I'm not stupid, I get $100.00 a week for sitting at home, if I get a job and make $120.00 a week then in effect I'm working for $20.00 a week.
__________________
BOTH POLITICIANS AND DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON!
Chuck43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2016, 09:00 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Nevada
Posts: 2,446
Originally Posted by Chuck43 View Post
Put a time limit on the subsidies, we put a roof over their head, give them money, health care, food stamps, cell phones, offer schooling and it just goes on forever. Why should they look for work if they know the government will continue to give them more money every time they have another baby? Or as one guy once said to me and I don't remember the numbers he used but it went like this. I'm not stupid, I get $100.00 a week for sitting at home, if I get a job and make $120.00 a week then in effect I'm working for $20.00 a week.
That sounds great, Chuck, but didn’t we already try that? Didn’t President Clinton initiate the passage of a welfare reform package that included “workfare” in 1996? Work and Welfare Reform: Impact of Workfare Programs

Here’s the problem: Children! Punishing innocent children for the transgressions of their parents does not align with the Judeo-Christian moral beliefs of the majority of Americans. Nor does it fit the beliefs of Islam. How can we penalize lazy, deadbeat parents without harming innocent children? If we cut benefits to deadbeat parents, are we returning the US to 18th and 19th Century Britain, with children begging on the streets with no shoes? With children freezing or starving to death because the parents could not, or would not, support them? Do you think that a majority of Americans would agree with this position? We are not subsidizing adults forever, We are subsidizing the elderly, the infirm, and the Children. I think it is what the Bible teaches, but maybe I’m wrong about this. Am I?

Attachment 10177



Marshall and GoingSolo like this.
__________________
Richard
NRA Life Member - 1982

Last edited by Richard; 01-25-2016 at 12:19 PM.
Richard is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
America Doesn't Have a Gun Problem, It Has A Democrat Problem Chuck43 Off-Topic Discussion Forum 17 01-09-2016 02:16 PM
Please America, TRY THIS! Ice-and-Snow Off-Topic Discussion Forum 14 04-15-2015 11:56 PM
This is why... MADE IN AMERICA... Elidar73 Kimber Talk 8 05-21-2014 11:39 AM
Only In America.... Chuck43 Off-Topic Discussion Forum 7 03-02-2014 07:50 AM
Are we losing America? Gmountain Off-Topic Discussion Forum 25 11-23-2013 04:30 PM