01-18-2016, 12:38 PM
Join Date: Mar 2014
Originally Posted by The Tourist
Several years ago a traveling evangelist told my riding buddies the same thing. The tavern was dead quiet for over two and a half months.
Granted, I have been loose with the truth more than most, and if I ever hurt anyone I'd feel terrible. Then again, I enjoy hearing or telling a deliberate yarn as part of the evening activities.
It's the sin I find troubling.
Augustine of Hippo classified lies more than 1600 years ago:
Augustine of Hippo wrote two books about lying: On Lying (De Mendacio) and Against Lying (Contra Mendacio). He describes each book in his later work, Retractions. Based on the location of De Mendacio in Retractions, it appears to have been written about 395 AD. The first work, On Lying, begins: "Magna quæstio est de Mendacio" ("There is a great question about Lying"). From his text, it can be derived that St. Augustine divided lies into eight categories, listed in order of descending severity:
Lies in religious teaching
Lies that harm others and help no one
Lies that harm others and help someone
Lies told for the pleasure of lying
Lies told to "please others in smooth discourse"
Lies that harm no one and that help someone materially
Lies that harm no one and that help someone spiritually
Lies that harm no one and that protect someone from "bodily defilement"
Despite distinguishing between lies according to their external severity, Augustine maintains in both treatises that all lies, defined precisely as the external communication of what one does not hold to be internally true, are categorically sinful and therefore ethically impermissible.
Augustine wrote that lies told in jest, or by someone who believes or opines the lie to be true are not, in fact, lies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie
That last sentence, Chico, probably applied to the members of your MC, so you have nothing to worry about.
NRA Life Member - 1982