[antarius]

Simple question:

I'm a GLOCK guy, usually. So, naturally, I don't use safeties. I know the Solo has a block / drop safety, as well as a manual safety.

Does the manual safety merely limit the trigger from traveling, or does it also operate the striker block (sorry for bad nomenclature) / drop safety?

Basically I would rather carry it safety off, but not if the manual safety is also the component which keeps the drop safety and striker block in place.

I know on my GLOCKS the trigger is what removes the striker block -- when you start to pull the trigger to the rear. I'm hoping that's the same with the Solo.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Chuck43]

Welcome to the forum from northern Illinois antarius. I don't own a Solo but I can't imagine and couldn't recommend anyone carrying one with the safety off.

 

[Fleamac]

1911 pistols are designed to be carried with one in the chamber and the safety on. I'd suggest you practice, with an empty pistol, flipping the safety off to develop muscle memory. Even with the grip safety, I'd would not be comfortable carrying without the safety engaged.

 

[Insta-Gator]

Many profess a 1911 grip style of having the strong hand thumb on top of the manual safety. If this is comfortable for you and you practice it, you should be able to carry with safety on and instinctively release the safety if needed. With a 4 to 5 pound single-action trigger, you might easily shoot yourself or someone else when retrieving or holstering the weapon.

 

[OneShot]

I am new to 1911's and have been a Glock guy for many years. I have never felt comfortable carrying with a round in the chamber. I get the need to not have to cycle a round in an emergency but that's just me. Even with the safety of my CDP, I still don't carry with it chambered. I hope it never cost me in an emergency but it is what I'm comfortable with.

 

[antarius]

The Solo is not a 1911. Try not to confuse it with a single action 1911. It's not.

Does anyone know the function of the safety as I asked? Not trying to be rudd, but I have plenty of striker fire SA firearms that have no manual safety and they're fine. I've not shot anyone or myself when drawing or holstering. If it was a SA 1911, sure I'd use one. But it's not and it has a long 7lb pull not a short 4lb.

Anyhow, I'm not looking for advice on how to handle the gun, just the mechanics of its manual safety.

 

[Chuck43]

I am new to 1911's and have been a Glock guy for many years. I have never felt comfortable carrying with a round in the chamber. I get the need to not have to cycle a round in an emergency but that's just me. Even with the safety of my CDP, I still don't carry with it chambered. I hope it never cost me in an emergency but it is what I'm comfortable with.

If you're not comfortable carrying a 1911 in condition 1 then don't do it. Some people new to the 1911 have a hard time adjusting to the fact that in addition to the primary safety between their ears there are two mechanical safety's on the gun.

 

[antarius]

Welcome to the forum from North Georgia,mine is carried with one chambered and the safety on

Thank you. Any indication on if the manual safety also controls the block / drop safety, or if that's controlled (removed) by the depressing of the trigger (as it is on a GLOCK and most striker fired pistols)?

If you're not comfortable carrying a 1911 in condition 1 then don't do it. Some people new to the 1911 have a hard time adjusting to the fact that in addition to the primary safety between their ears there are two mechanical safety's on the gun.

Truth!

 

[Islander]

Simple question:

I'm a GLOCK guy, usually. So, naturally, I don't use safeties. I know the Solo has a block / drop safety, as well as a manual safety.

Does the manual safety merely limit the trigger from traveling, or does it also operate the striker block (sorry for bad nomenclature) / drop safety?

Basically I would rather carry it safety off, but not if the manual safety is also the component which keeps the drop safety and striker block in place.

I know on my GLOCKS the trigger is what removes the striker block -- when you start to pull the trigger to the rear. I'm hoping that's the same with the Solo.

Thanks in advance.

First welcome to the forum. I am not 100% positive, but I think the safety operates the striker block which is part of the reason it's there. I wouldn't want to carry a Solo safety off.

 

[Islander]

First welcome to the forum. I am not 100% positive, but I think the safety operates the striker block which is part of the reason it's there. I wouldn't want to carry a Solo safety off.

You know, now I'm not quite so sure. Read this and see what you think.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...E6iYhEmFwP-FkFVyrEtw4tw&bvm=bv.62922401,d.aWc

 

[antarius]

First welcome to the forum. I am not 100% positive, but I think the safety operates the striker block which is part of the reason it's there. I wouldn't want to carry a Solo safety off.

If this is the case, I am in 100% agreement. I don't need a safety to prevent my finger from pulling the trigger - I have a brain for that. I do, however, want a striker block in place until I do actually pull that trigger. So if the manual safety operates that, I will use it. If not, I won't.

You know, now I'm not quite so sure. Read this and see what you think.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...E6iYhEmFwP-FkFVyrEtw4tw&bvm=bv.62922401,d.aWc

That seems promising (for me), but I also read elsewhere (on AR15.com) that the manual safety does operate the striker block.

 

[Islander]

If this is the case, I am in 100% agreement. I don't need a safety to prevent my finger from pulling the trigger - I have a brain for that. I do, however, want a striker block in place until I do actually pull that trigger. So if the manual safety operates that, I will use it. If not, I won't.

That seems promising (for me), but I also read elsewhere (on AR15.com) that the manual safety does operate the striker block.

You know, I thought I read that somewhere too hence my first response. But now I can't find it. Probably your best bet would be to call Kimber and see what they have to say.

 

[antarius]

You know, I thought I read that somewhere too hence my first response. But now I can't find it. Probably your best bet would be to call Kimber and see what they have to say.

I broke down and did exactly that, just now.

The final word from the man / men / woman / women at Kimber is this:

The internal striker block safety is separate from the manual external thumb safety.

In short, I can have the manual external safety disabled and until I physically start to pull the trigger, the internal striker block safety (also known as a drop safety) will remain in place. Much like every other striker fired weapon I've used (including GLOCKS).

Bottom line? You can drop it or knock it around or do whatever you want to it with the external manual safety off, a round chambered, and it will not fire unless you actually pull the trigger.

I'll feel much better carrying it without the safety on now -- and will continue to use, as the prior poster said, the safety between my ears.

 

[Islander]

I broke down and did exactly that, just now.

The final word from the man / men / woman / women at Kimber is this:

The internal striker block safety is separate from the manual external thumb safety.

In short, I can have the manual external safety disabled and until I physically start to pull the trigger, the internal striker block safety (also known as a drop safety) will remain in place. Much like every other striker fired weapon I've used (including GLOCKS).

Bottom line? You can drop it or knock it around or do whatever you want to it with the external manual safety off, a round chambered, and it will not fire unless you actually pull the trigger.

I'll feel much better carrying it without the safety on now -- and will continue to use, as the prior poster said, the safety between my ears.

Thank you for posting your findings. We all learned something!

 

[antarius]

Thank you for posting your findings. We all learned something!

I try not to bother Kimber on stuff like this, figured I'd rather bother you guys! Haha! Plus, if Kimber has to answer my stupid phone calls they won't have time to get everyone's guns back or made in the first place!

 

[Oreste]

Thanks for the info. I read this info somewhere while researching some other issues and just could not remember exactly. Thanks for your efforts and helping refresh my memory. I felt it was safe not using safety (relatively) and I did know it was a 7lb pull. I think I will go back to keeping one in the chamber with the safety off.
Thanks again.

 

[antarius]

Thanks for the info. I read this info somewhere while researching some other issues and just could not remember exactly. Thanks for your efforts and helping refresh my memory. I felt it was safe not using safety (relatively) and I did know it was a 7lb pull. I think I will go back to keeping one in the chamber with the safety off.
Thanks again.

Glad it helped.

Some people choose to use manual safeties because they're used to them and like the extra "safety" (haha, no pun intended!) they afford them. I choose not to, so long as the firearm is protected from bump-firing or firing at all unless the trigger is pulled.

Needless to say, I'm pleased.

 

[Josey Wales]

Glad it helped.

Some people choose to use manual safeties because they're used to them and like the extra "safety" (haha, no pun intended!) they afford them. I choose not to, so long as the firearm is protected from bump-firing or firing at all unless the trigger is pulled.

Needless to say, I'm pleased.

Antarius, welcome and thanks for the info, you being used to striker fired guns no safety on, works for you.....
As for me and some others carrying 1911's my muscle memory sweeps the safety off when I draw, I will use my safety. good luck and good shooting with your Solo.

J.W.

 

[bigdog10]

Antarius, welcome and thanks for the info, you being used to striker fired guns no safety on, works for you.....
As for me and some others carrying 1911's my muscle memory sweeps the safety off when I draw, I will use my safety. good luck and good shooting with your Solo.

J.W.

X2 exactly my thought!

 

[bigdog10]

Welcome to the forum