Love forums....really great info...gives u a heads up on any issues...u get to c other peoples grips n u get help from ur mistakes,again really great.It's my first Kimber, actually trying to get better guns for my g/f to shoot and hopefully improve her accuracy...probably her instructors fault (me). Oh yea,I'm retired as a Locomotive Engr. with CSXT after 39 yrs. and it's good to finally have a day off...