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Other than the polished blue finish and grips? No difference. To me not worth the cost. For a carry gun that finish will wear quickly. But the Royale is pretty.
 

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Custom II

Highly recommend the regular old Custom II for value.

Highly recommend the Royal for sex appeal!

The Custom II is a great shooting gun, and I bet you can find one for around $700. You can then add whatever grips and sights over time, but much easier to get into at $700. People can correct me if I'm wrong on the current market.

You could be at the range next week :)

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I can't argue those points. A well-built, good shooting gun is all we can reasonably ask.

But how do you put a price on sexy?
 
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All that hand polishing and hand fitting takes a lot of time that is where the higher price comes from, but with that the gun is smother and would be more accurate
 

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The grips are bone and the finish is not the crappy Kimpro finish it's done by Turnbull mfg.
Turnbull Restorations. Finishes said to be unmatched.

This discussion hits close to home because I will be buying a Royal II. Perhaps as soon as today. So why would I pay a thousand dollars more to have a Royal II?

First, there are those who are very proud of how cheap they can buy something. There is nothing wrong with that, I'm just not one of those people. That is why I'm on the Kimber Forum. I like quality, I'll pay more to get it and I am fortunate enough to be able to on occasion.

Second, I am an artist and make my living designing things - the fit, finish and overall look really matter to me. That is why I bought a 1911 and not a plastic gun. Kimber has a lot of models and after looking at every one for a long time, the one I think is the most beautiful is the Royal II. Is a gun a work of art? Is it a thing of beauty and lasting value? Damn right.

Third, do you ever notice which muscle cars are worth the most today? It is a 429 Mach I, not the base model Mustang with a six-cylinder. It is the Hemi Cuda, not the 318 model. It's the SS396 Chevelle, not the Malibu with the vinyl top. I see a gun as something to collect and hand down to my sons and their sons and I want the models that are the most desirable.

The Custom II is a great gun and it is a tremendous value. There is a lot to be said for that. But doing the same job for less money is one kind of value. When something makes people say "wow".... "I want one of those"....that is a different kind of value.

Finally, what something is worth is relative. When I was first married I was so broke, at my lowest point I sold my blood plasma once. It took hours, it was humiliating and when I got done, I got a check for, as I recall, $6.00. In other words, I have been poor but now I'm fortunate not to have to live paycheck to paycheck. And, I'm fortunate enough to be able to pay a bit more to get something really special. And you know what? I have worked so hard for so long, I feel like I f--king deserve it! :mad:
 

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Turnbull Restorations. Finishes said to be unmatched.

This discussion hits close to home because I will be buying a Royal II. Perhaps as soon as today. So why would I pay a thousand dollars more to have a Royal II?

First, there are those who are very proud of how cheap they can buy something. There is nothing wrong with that, I'm just not one of those people. That is why I'm on the Kimber Forum. I like quality, I'll pay more to get it and I am fortunate enough to be able to on occasion.

Second, I am an artist and make my living designing things - the fit, finish and overall look really matter to me. That is why I bought a 1911 and not a plastic gun. Kimber has a lot of models and after looking at every one for a long time, the one I think is the most beautiful is the Royal II. Is a gun a work of art? Is it a thing of beauty and lasting value? Damn right.

Third, do you ever notice which muscle cars are worth the most today? It is a 429 Mach I, not the base model Mustang with a six-cylinder. It is the Hemi Cuda, not the 318 model. It's the SS396 Chevelle, not the Malibu with the vinyl top. I see a gun as something to collect and hand down to my sons and their sons and I want the models that are the most desirable.

The Custom II is a great gun and it is a tremendous value. There is a lot to be said for that. But doing the same job for less money is one kind of value. When something makes people say "wow".... "I want one of those"....that is a different kind of value.

Finally, what something is worth is relative. When I was first married I was so broke, at my lowest point I sold my blood plasma once. It took hours, it was humiliating and when I got done, I got a check for, as I recall, $6.00. In other words, I have been poor but now I'm fortunate not to have to live paycheck to paycheck. And, I'm fortunate enough to be able to pay a bit more to get something really special. And you know what? I have worked so hard for so long, I feel like I f--king deserve it! :mad:
Me likes how you think. Go get that bad boy.
 

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Hell Yeah!!

I'm with you, PorscheVille!! I started as a dumb ass Lineman, for $96.50 a week back in 1973! :(:( I guarantee you I didn't buy many guns on that pay!!! Forty years, a college degree and a retirement as an Engineer later, I now buy whatever gun I dam well feel like!!!

Sometimes, the very best presents that you get are the ones "From Me To Me!!!":D:D:D:cool:
 

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Well, I pulled the trigger on this deal and ordered the gun I have been lusting after. After I wrote that last post, I grabbed my change jar I throw my pocket change into and took it to the CoinStar machine to cash it in. There was $265. worth of quarters, dimes and pennies in there. Adding that to the rest of the cash I had stuffed in a sock, I had $1,300 bucks. I checked on GunBroker.com and one Royal had already found a home. I think that was the one the seller said took two years to get. There were three left and I bought one. They had one with the starting price at $1,769.99 and the Buy It Now price was also $1,769.99....so I ended my misery and made the buy. :):):) I'm happy.

Will I post pics when it gets here? What do you think? :D
 

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Well, I pulled the trigger on this deal and ordered the gun I have been lusting after. After I wrote that last post, I grabbed my change jar I throw my pocket change into and took it to the CoinStar machine to cash it in. There was $265. worth of quarters, dimes and pennies in there. Adding that to the rest of the cash I had stuffed in a sock, I had $1,300 bucks. I checked on GunBroker.com and one Royal had already found a home. I think that was the one the seller said took two years to get. There were three left and I bought one. They had one with the starting price at $1,769.99 and the Buy It Now price was also $1,769.99....so I ended my misery and made the buy. :):):) I'm happy.

Will I post pics when it gets here? What do you think? :D
Tyler once said "We all work jobs we hate to buy sh** we don't need." But it is nice to see someone getting what they want the old fashion way. Hard work and saving. Porsche, a tip of my hat to you good sir!!

The one I saw at Friday at the LGS was 2100.00 plus 8.05% tax gran total 2269.05. I think you did dam well.
 

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Tyler once said "We all work jobs we hate to buy sh** we don't need." But it is nice to see someone getting what they want the old fashion way. Hard work and saving. Porsche, a tip of my hat to you good sir!!

The one I saw at Friday at the LGS was 2100.00 plus 8.05% tax gran total 2269.05. I think you did dam well.
Yes, one thing I've learned is the bigger and more well equipped the LGS, the more you pay. That is how they got big and well equipped. I will use a local big, over-priced gs as my FFL....they'll make $25-$35 bucks, but that is it. I'd love to support my local gun dealer, but the online folks just make it easy to find and get what you want, when you want it and at a great price.
 
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