[kleachii]

Hey there everyone,

I'm the proud new owner of a Super Carry Ultra +. I have a few questions for those in the know..This is my first .45, owned or fired. I've fired many different 9mm and .40/.357 sig pistols, but never a .45 prior to my 1911.

My first thought is it is snappy to say the least. I expected more snap from my 1911 as compared to my FNH FNS-40. Would you say my 1911 has more or less recoil compared to other .45 pistols? I am waiting on a FNX-45 tactical, and I was curious what I should expect when firing these two very different pistols.

I also suffered from the same loose grips as many other owners who have recently posted. I used blue Loctite, so I will see how it goes the next time I go to the range.

I am open to any and all advice anyone may have to a brand new 1911 owner. Obviously it is very different from my striker fire polymer .40, so I surely could use some words of wisdom. Thanks in advance, everyone!

 

[MPO Southy]

Welcome aboard from Dixie Co.Fl.I have a Super Carry Custom HD and I honestly don't notice any more recoil than my Sig P220 DAK,or for that matter my 9mm Sig P226.Anyways,I wish you the best of luck.

 

[Chuck43]

My first thought is it is snappy to say the least. I expected more snap from my 1911 as compared to my FNH FNS-40. Would you say my 1911 has more or less recoil compared to other .45 pistols? I am waiting on a FNX-45 tactical, and I was curious what I should expect when firing these two very different pistols.

Welcome to the forum from Northern Illinois kleachii. Your Super Carry Ultra+ is going to have more felt recoil then the FNX-45 Tactical you're getting. The Super Carry Ultra+ has a 3" barrel, a capacity of 8 rounds and weights 25 oz. empty. The FNX-45 Tactical has a 5.3" barrel, a capacity of 15 rounds and weights 33.6 oz. empty. The FNX is a 1/2 pound heavier before you insert a loaded clip that will hold almost twice as many rounds as the Kimber. I've never had an opportunity to shoot a .45 with a 3" barrel but I have a Super Carry Pro (4" barrel) that is a tack driver.

 

[kleachii]

Thanks, Chuck. I had assumed as much, but I was curious what others had to say. I absolutely love my Kimber, so I look forward to learning as much as I can about 1911's and all that entails.

 

[Mike240]

I agree with Chuck. The mass of the gun changes the felt recoil. Having 40 and 45 1911s of the same size; and having to carry 9 and 40 Glocks of the same size, the 40 is as you say snappy.

I think the 45 is more stout push or shove compared to a quick thrust or punch of the 40.

The snap you get is also due to the short and light slide of the 3 inch gun traveling so quickly to the rear. Little guns are more violent. On you and themselves in terms of parts wear and shorter maintenance intervals.

 

[Nellybelle]

I also have a Super Carry Ultra Plus. Had a few minor issues with FTRTB and FTF. I also had a grip screw issue. I contacted Kimber and they sent me a small o ring to place between the screw and the grip.
I hope you didn't Loctite the screws into the screw stud. I used blue Loctite on the stud but not the screws or inner thread of the studs themselves. Your are going to love the pistol once you break it in

 

[Mike240]

Use red Loctite for the bushings/escutcheons into the frame. Let cure. Use blue Loctite on the screws. Been doing it for years on guns that I don't want staked. And I don't want to stake alloy frames. Just my opinion.

 

[kleachii]

Use red Loctite for the bushings/escutcheons into the frame. Let cure. Use blue Loctite on the screws. Been doing it for years on guns that I don't want staked. And I don't want to stake alloy frames. Just my opinion.

I used 1 drop of blue loctite placed on the screws themselves. I hope I didn't ruin anything...if so...oops too late now lol. Not to show my ignorance yet again, but what is staking?

 

[Mike240]

No you didn't ruin it. Blue is softer than red. Red requires some heat to losses for removal. So the bushing would stay put when you remove the screw in the future.

Staking is the moving of metal over or into metal by using a punch. The original 1911s made by colt staked them in with a special three bladed tool. I think three. Would have to look. Haven't used mine in years. Modern adhesives make it easier. Staking in alloy frames harms threads in the frame should the bushings need to be removed. There is also a special bit to remove them to prevent harm. Installation and removal with a common screwdriver can break them.

 

[kleachii]

Just checked. 3 out of 4 bushings came out instead of the screws. So logically one would think I should use red loctite (as you suggested earlier) on the bushings. Then I should be able to break the screws free in the future since they have the softer blue loctite. Is this what you are recommending??

 

[Mike240]

Yes. Clean surfaces with rubbing alcohol first.

 

[Nellybelle]

I stand corrected. Red Loctite may be ok on the OD threads of the bushings. Then Blue on the threads of the grips screws.
I have installed one O rings but haven't tried the pistol to see if it works.
Your still going to love the SCUP

 

[kleachii]

Thanks, everyone. I did as instructed, so I'm assuming all will be fine. Either way, I would think I have solved the original problem by now. Tomorrow I will run some rounds through her and see how it goes and let everyone know.

 

[scotty5775]

I've owned my Super Carry Ultra+ for almost 8 months and have put over 500 rounds through it without ONE PROBLEM!!!!! I love this gun and wouldn't trade it for any handgun out there.

 

[Chickadee]

Welcome to the forum! I have a Super Carry Pro HD that I love. I also have a Tactical Ultra - now that little beast is snappy! The extra weight & barrel length of the Super Carry really makes a difference.

Looking forward to your range report!

 

[Lineman]

Not That Different!

Obviously it is very different from my striker fire polymer .40, so I surely could use some words of wisdom. Thanks in advance, everyone!

I have a full size Smith and Wesson M&P40 and a Kimber Pro Carry II .45 ACP. I switch back and forth between them and do not see a whole lot of difference. I have an Apex hard sear in the S&W so the two triggers are fairly close in weight. The Smith has some take up that the Kimber doesn't but other than that I hardly notice the difference once I flick off the thumb safety on the 1911. To me, at least, I find the recoil of the .40 to be just a bit softer than the .45. Could be the difference between a 180 and a 230 grain bullet too!!