I thought it was discontinued.
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I stand corrected on FN - I was thinking Hi Power. Not relevant to this subject. Even so, they are twice the size of Kimber.
I would like to see proof of those Kimber numbers. I dont buy their claim. I figure they know that it's impossible to disprove their claim.
Springfield Armory is not the maker of muskets. They just bought the name. Founded in 1974, which only seems like 245 years ago. I didn't mention the Spanish 1911's. Astra, Star, Llama. You don't see them much in the US but they have sold a lot of them.
The best thing to happen to Colt was to be acquired by a company that has their shit together. They are making decent 1911s again. I have a Combat Elite and a Gold Cup Trophy both 45's. Four years old now. Tight, reliable, smooth as silk. Mostly range guns for me. I generally don't carry a government or commander sized 1911 for an EDC. Unless I'm out in the woods. And then most of the time it's my G20. A 10mm pistol that always goes bang.
Kimber gets credit for breathing new life into the 1911 world back in the day. But like I said I think they have lost their mojo in terms of quality and the 1911 market is heating up once again. It's their game to lose.
Call me cynical. I have never had to send back a Remington, Ruger, Springfield. Rock Island, Smith and Wesson, Colt, Sig, Taurus 1911 for repairs. Not even once. I have been shooting 1911s a long time. At one time or another I owned one or more of those makes. Then there's my ten year old Kimbers. I still have those. Great pistols all of them.
I would like to see proof of those Kimber numbers. I dont buy their claim. I figure they know that it's impossible to disprove their claim.
Springfield Armory is not the maker of muskets. They just bought the name. Founded in 1974, which only seems like 245 years ago. I didn't mention the Spanish 1911's. Astra, Star, Llama. You don't see them much in the US but they have sold a lot of them.
The best thing to happen to Colt was to be acquired by a company that has their shit together. They are making decent 1911s again. I have a Combat Elite and a Gold Cup Trophy both 45's. Four years old now. Tight, reliable, smooth as silk. Mostly range guns for me. I generally don't carry a government or commander sized 1911 for an EDC. Unless I'm out in the woods. And then most of the time it's my G20. A 10mm pistol that always goes bang.
Kimber gets credit for breathing new life into the 1911 world back in the day. But like I said I think they have lost their mojo in terms of quality and the 1911 market is heating up once again. It's their game to lose.
Call me cynical. I have never had to send back a Remington, Ruger, Springfield. Rock Island, Smith and Wesson, Colt, Sig, Taurus 1911 for repairs. Not even once. I have been shooting 1911s a long time. At one time or another I owned one or more of those makes. Then there's my ten year old Kimbers. I still have those. Great pistols all of them.
I never said Kimber was as large as FN.
I said they are not a small manufacturer and they sell more 1911s than any other US manufacturer.
You are probably right, but Kimber is turning a profit. Colt isn't really Colt, Springfield is all in on the Hellcat and XDs when they aren't selling M1A variants, and Ruger, SW don't really even focus on 1911s. They make em..but they are an afterthought.
Are any of them even in business?
Yes, it was. CZ is a fantastic company, and they kept the spirit of Dan Wesson alive when they acquired it. They know how to build a good 1911.The best thing to happen to Colt was to be acquired by a company that has their shit together. They are making decent 1911s again. I have a Combat Elite and a Gold Cup Trophy both 45's. Four years old now. Tight, reliable, smooth as silk. Mostly range guns for me. I generally don't carry a government or commander sized 1911 for an EDC. Unless I'm out in the woods. And then most of the time it's my G20. A 10mm pistol that always goes bang.
Sadly, rumor has it that they are letting Colt's US management stay in place, so I don't have high hopes.
Kimber has the best fit and finish in their price range of any manufacturer
I'll throw BUL in the mix too, but they aren't made in the US, and anything other than their basic line gets priced up into Dan Wesson territory.
Probably a good thing, because they would still have your gun.
@bad ninja Read the employee reviews of Kimber in Alabama on Indeed and Glassdoor. Very entertaining.
We can shelf this conversation and revisit it again in a year. I'm sticking with my belief they are in trouble on the manufacturing side. Instead of fixing the problem they hire more ramp polishers for warranty work.
A fish rots from the head down. Bad leaders kill good companies.
A bunch of New Yorkers running a company in rural Alabama led by a real life Gordon Gecko. What could go wrong?
We can shelf this conversation and revisit it again in a year. I'm sticking with my belief they are in trouble on the manufacturing side. Instead of fixing the problem they hire more ramp polishers for warranty work.
A fish rots from the head down. Bad leaders kill good companies.
A bunch of New Yorkers running a company in rural Alabama led by a real life Gordon Gecko. What could go wrong?
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