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Ok, I know righties tend to group in the 7:00 or 8:00 area when POI is off X.

Some of you more experienced shoots can help bring us back on target. Share some suggestions or techniques you use to stay out of the "rightie zone" and back in the 10 ring.
 

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If it's a fixed sight gun, tap the rear sight to get proper alignment, then physically adjust for elevation.
Short of sight adjustments, you can adjust your aiming point. Shoot to the opposite point as that of impact. Or, try one of these adjustments.

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Yeah, I figured my bad shots are somewhere between jerking the trigger and improper trigger finger. The improper trigger finger is what I want to learn about.

It's worse with the Glocks. I'm thinking it has something to do with the length of trigger pull and poundage/creep of the trigger. I put a "minus" 4.5# connector in the G23 but I really couldn't tell the difference.
 

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It all comes down to trigger work, my son (a very experienced shooter) was suddenly having a similar problems. He finally broke down and got some professional help but he says that working with the LazerLyte cartridge and target I got him for Christmas was the biggest help. Just dry firing with the cartridge in his gun he could actually see when he was pulling his shots. Check out the pre Christmas thread we had going back in December.
 

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Practice the basics. Stance, grip, sight picture etc. Dry fire. Get some professional training. Get lots of ammo and shoot a bunch.
 

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Good drill, Mike. Not as easy as it sounds, especially with an empty hand.
 
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Sending Lead Down Range.......kind of!!!

Here is a little trick that I learned from an old friend that I used to shoot with. He was a member of the Army pistol team, now know as the Army Marksmanship Unit at Ft Benning.

Take a sheet of blank paper and draw a 1/8" diameter dot on the upper third of the page. Tape the paper to a piece of plywood mounted at eye level. Check, physically and visually, that your 1911 is NOT LOADED!!!! Rack the slide back or just cock the hammer and place a sharpened #2 pencil fully down the barrel. Finally, use your sights to aim at the dot, while holding the pistol about 3/4" away from the paper, then carefully squeeze the trigger.

The pencil will jump forward when struck by the firing pin and leave a mark on the paper. Repeating this exercise will leave a "mini grouping" on the paper below the dot. Practice to make the smallest group you can! It is dry fire practice with a record of how you are doing. :cool::cool: I found it to be quite useful!!! :D Give it a try!!!
 

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Here is a little trick that I learned from an old friend that I used to shoot with. He was a member of the Army pistol team, now know as the Army Marksmanship Unit at Ft Benning.

Take a sheet of blank paper and draw a 1/8" diameter dot on the upper third of the page. Tape the paper to a piece of plywood mounted at eye level. Check, physically and visually, that your 1911 is NOT LOADED!!!! Rack the slide back or just cock the hammer and place a sharpened #2 pencil fully down the barrel. Finally, use your sights to aim at the dot, while holding the pistol about 3/4" away from the paper, then carefully squeeze the trigger.

The pencil will jump forward when struck by the firing pin and leave a mark on the paper. Repeating this exercise will leave a "mini grouping" on the paper below the dot. Practice to make the smallest group you can! It is dry fire practice with a record of how you are doing. :cool::cool: I found it to be quite useful!!! :D Give it a try!!!
Cool idea. I'll have to try this next week, when time permits. When I dry fire practice at home I always try to hold on a small enough target that if the front sight moves, it will be obvious.... supposedly. Your suggestion sounds more productive.
 

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Here is a little trick that I learned from an old friend that I used to shoot with. He was a member of the Army pistol team, now know as the Army Marksmanship Unit at Ft Benning.

Take a sheet of blank paper and draw a 1/8" diameter dot on the upper third of the page. Tape the paper to a piece of plywood mounted at eye level. Check, physically and visually, that your 1911 is NOT LOADED!!!! Rack the slide back or just cock the hammer and place a sharpened #2 pencil fully down the barrel. Finally, use your sights to aim at the dot, while holding the pistol about 3/4" away from the paper, then carefully squeeze the trigger.

The pencil will jump forward when struck by the firing pin and leave a mark on the paper. Repeating this exercise will leave a "mini grouping" on the paper below the dot. Practice to make the smallest group you can! It is dry fire practice with a record of how you are doing. :cool::cool: I found it to be quite useful!!! :D Give it a try!!!
Lineman, this isn't something like checkered paint or a smoke sifter is it?
 

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Ok, I know righties tend to group in the 7:00 or 8:00 area when POI is off X.

Some of you more experienced shoots can help bring us back on target. Share some suggestions or techniques you use to stay out of the "rightie zone" and back in the 10 ring.
Gator, here is a classic righty...I shot this pic after one mag. The first shot was almost dead center. The second shot is the one way out at 7:00. The next 5 were well centered. I've seen that chart, I've tried to concentrate and I always seem to have about 7-10% off. Always left. Sometimes low left.
 

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RO/Instructor at LGS says the first five shots are your best. It's down here after that. :D
 

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Gator, here is a classic righty...I shot this pic after one mag. The first shot was almost dead center. The second shot is the one way out at 7:00. The next 5 were well centered. I've seen that chart, I've tried to concentrate and I always seem to have about 7-10% off. Always left. Sometimes low left.
What do the K&D represent? GiGi said Kill & Disable but I think the shots would be close together or within an inch or two..
 

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What do the K&D represent? GiGi said Kill & Disable but I think the shots would be close together or within an inch or two..
Somebody explained it once on here. I they said it was a police completion target or something. They used those at the range I go to but have switched to a black target with 7, 8, 9, etc.
 

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Lineman, this isn't something like checkered paint or a smoke sifter is it?
Nope, it really works! I didn't believe it myself, until my buddy demonstrated it. I was amazed watching him "shoot a group" with a pencil point!! It just miniaturizes the target and the group. The beauty is that you can actually see how you shoot along with your dry fire practice. Give it a try!!!

It could be similar to muffler bearings, though!!! :D:D
 

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What do the K&D represent? GiGi said Kill & Disable but I think the shots would be close together or within an inch or two..
The K3/D5 like in the right hand shoulder of the target are points used in scoring a Kill or Disabling shot by some law enforcement departments.
 

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Do y'all shoot with your strong-hand thumb on top of the safety?

Feels kind of awkward to me.
 

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Yes, I rest the thumb of my right hand on the safety when I grip a 1911.
 
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