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I did read Biden plans to send out a frillion or so test kits so everyone can easily find out they're positive??? Great idea right there.
New antivirals (Pfizer is supposed to have a very effective antiviral pill approved soon) will require early detection to be the most effective. At-home test kits should help.

Of course this won't help anti-vax fools because they don't preventatively use 'experimental' drugs. They wait until a tube is about to be shoved down their throat THEN beg for it. Sorry, it's too late.
 

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I'm not sure if you were replying to my post Dadeoo? I didn't mean to imply that looks have anything to do with susceptibility. Your immune system and health/fitness are what I was referring to. Gut health is a critical element in anyones immune system. Here in the USA the Standard American Diet (SAD) tends to contribute to poor gut health and a less than ideal immune system. One example would be "Round UP Ready" crops and the related herbicides that wind up getting into your system, it's not hard to see there's a problem. If weed killer won't kill it do you think it's a good idea to eat it, hmmmm. That's just one example. I could spend all day listing things that are commonly sold as "food" that are essentially toxic and void of nutrition.

I will ask about the "lots of athletes dying from the vax", uhhh, who are they??? Most elite athletes who test positive are asymptomatic. Probably because they're in good health.

I did read Biden plans to send out a frillion or so test kits so everyone can easily find out they're positive??? Great idea right there. Telling "folk" to cut the garbage out of their diets and take a few supplements would be to simple I guess???

No shit, Sherlock.

A healthy person with a healthy immune system, with natural antibodies will absolutley fare better against any virus than an unhealthy person with a compromised immune system who has no natural antibodies.

Which is why a large number of people who have already had the Covie dont need the jab.

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New antivirals (Pfizer is supposed to have a very effective antiviral pill approved soon) will require early detection to be the most effective. At-home test kits should help.

Of course this won't help anti-vax fools because they don't use 'experimental' drugs. They wait until a tube is about to be shoved down their throat THEN beg for it. Sorry, it's too late.
Serious question Phil:
So how do you know the new pill actually works?

Can you link some peer reviewed documents detailing the testing?

What are the known long term side effects?

Where can I read all this data that those claims are based on?
 

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Well, cuz we agree on diet!

I'm very lucky, raise our own food (grass fed beef that get no regular shots, garden, fresh eggs), buy as little from factory food as possible.

After years of this, we usually get sick for a day or two if we eat out (restaurant food).

I'll give you a glyophosphate, modern ag conspiracy theory.

Most of the world sprays weeds with glyophosphate (roundup) including states & counties using it along roadways. Then most plant ryegrass to hold the soil. Deer, then are drawn to the new grasses that sprout up. And there is growing evidence that this is Chronic Wasting Disease in the deer.

Mad cow disease appeared in U.K. and France five years after they lifted a ban on Roundup herbicides. And has gone away, since renewed restrictions on its use.

Agent Orange was sold as competely non toxic during the 60's. Thelidomide, given mothers without testing, caused grotesque birth defects, ...

Currently, there are countries that will not allow GMO seeds/Roundup ready crops, 5G radio signals have been outlawed in several countries (while DARPA developes weapons based on it), African countries won't accept GMO CORN given as aid...

So, the the stronger the gov push comes for acceptance of short tested drugs, the greater the resistance should/will be!

Now Phil,

I don't see anyone begging you for anything!

Oh, accept stay the hell out of my personal decisions!

Anyone, ANYONE, so sure they are RIGHT on such an issue, is usually WRONG!

Imagine you're wrong. And a year, or years from now, the vax's are provine toxic. What will you say?
"Well, that's what they told us!"
"It was the Government! "
"We just did as ordered!"

There is nothing NEW. If you don't know the history, you won't learn from it.

Even in the Greatest Country to have ever existed, accidents happen, mistakes are made, Evil exists and things can go wrong!

Why anyone thinks they should be out shilling for this Pandemic, and selling a gmo, vaccine, to the public is mind boggling!

Where's the upside?

Any of you pro vax guys Dr's or drug salesmen? I don't see an upside in promoting this.

If you believe the stuff works, take it!

I haven't seen an antivaxxer asking to be saved.

I find it hard to believe a provaxxer, is pro 2nd Ammendment.

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Well, cuz we agree on diet!

I'm very lucky, raise our own food (grass fed beef that get no regular shots, garden, fresh eggs), buy as little from factory food as possible.

After years of this, we usually get sick for a day or two if we eat out (restaurant food).

I'll give you a glyophosphate, modern ag conspiracy theory.

Most of the world sprays weeds with glyophosphate (roundup) including states & counties using it along roadways. Then most plant ryegrass to hold the soil. Deer, then are drawn to the new grasses that sprout up. And there is growing evidence that this is Chronic Wasting Disease in the deer.

Mad cow disease appeared in U.K. and France five years after they lifted a ban on Roundup herbicides. And has gone away, since renewed restrictions on its use.

Agent Orange was sold as competely non toxic during the 60's. Thelidomide, given mothers without testing, caused grotesque birth defects, ...


Currently, there are countries that will not allow GMO seeds/Roundup ready crops, 5G radio signals have been outlawed in several countries (while DARPA developes weapons based on it), African countries won't accept GMO CORN given as aid...

So, the the stronger the gov push comes for acceptance of short tested drugs, the greater the resistance should/will be!

Now Phil,

I don't see anyone begging you for anything!

Oh, accept stay the hell out of my personal decisions!

Anyone, ANYONE, so sure they are RIGHT on such an issue, is usually WRONG!

Imagine you're wrong. And a year, or years from now, the vax's are provine toxic. What will you say?
"Well, that's what they told us!"
"It was the Government! "
"We just did as ordered!"

There is nothing NEW. If you don't know the history, you won't learn from it.

Even in the Greatest Country to have ever existed, accidents happen, mistakes are made, Evil exists and things can go wrong!

Why anyone thinks they should be out shilling for this Pandemic, and selling a gmo, vaccine, to the public is mind boggling!

Where's the upside?

Any of you pro vax guys Dr's or drug salesmen? I don't see an upside in promoting this.

If you believe the stuff works, take it!

I haven't seen an antivaxxer asking to be saved.

I find it hard to believe a provaxxer, is pro 2nd Ammendment.

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It's 100% correct that anything man made designed as a medicine or food may have potential issues. There are countless instances where products have been found to be hazardous. You don't need to convince me that corporate greed is often put in front of public health.

With the vaccine in question I think it's just a question of risk vs reward. The initial worry was that hospitals would be overrun. If not for shut downs and then the vaccine this could have been a much more serious $hit show. Every indication is that the vaccine has kept that from happening for the most part. It goes without saying there will be cases where there are bad reactions. Just like with a flu shot...
 

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Wow, and I perceive that now, we know the vaccines didn't do shat!

But the Gov is selling, demanding, mandating vaccination without manditory publishing, disclosing, that there are sid effects to the Vaccinations.

Big Bird, while selling the vax to kids is not telling them or their parents that it could maim or kill them!

If you watch a Viagra commercial on tv, you see 30 seconds of disclaimers about how Viagra may harm you!

There have been other vaccines in history, that when the trial harmed/killed tiny fractions of test subjects, they withdrew it.

Sars was an example.
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New antivirals (Pfizer is supposed to have a very effective antiviral pill approved soon) will require early detection to be the most effective. At-home test kits should help.

Of course this won't help anti-vax fools because they don't preventatively use 'experimental' drugs. They wait until a tube is about to be shoved down their throat THEN beg for it. Sorry, it's too late.
Yup, the option of "a vent" is never a good thing to hear. The prospect of coming away from such treatment unscathed declines the longer it's in too. Unless you've seen someone "ventilated" it's hard to have an accurate perspective of what's involved.

What I'm wondering is if the new antiviral medicine will also replace the ivermectin based Heart Guard? Won't that be funny...
 

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How about 1 out of one hundred develop a heart condition.
 

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Well, cuz we agree on diet!

I'm very lucky, raise our own food (grass fed beef that get no regular shots, garden, fresh eggs), buy as little from factory food as possible.

After years of this, we usually get sick for a day or two if we eat out (restaurant food).

I'll give you a glyophosphate, modern ag conspiracy theory.

Most of the world sprays weeds with glyophosphate (roundup) including states & counties using it along roadways. Then most plant ryegrass to hold the soil. Deer, then are drawn to the new grasses that sprout up. And there is growing evidence that this is Chronic Wasting Disease in the deer.

Mad cow disease appeared in U.K. and France five years after they lifted a ban on Roundup herbicides. And has gone away, since renewed restrictions on its use.

Agent Orange was sold as competely non toxic during the 60's. Thelidomide, given mothers without testing, caused grotesque birth defects, ...

Currently, there are countries that will not allow GMO seeds/Roundup ready crops, 5G radio signals have been outlawed in several countries (while DARPA developes weapons based on it), African countries won't accept GMO CORN given as aid...

So, the the stronger the gov push comes for acceptance of short tested drugs, the greater the resistance should/will be!

Now Phil,

I don't see anyone begging you for anything!

Oh, accept stay the hell out of my personal decisions!

Anyone, ANYONE, so sure they are RIGHT on such an issue, is usually WRONG!

Imagine you're wrong. And a year, or years from now, the vax's are provine toxic. What will you say?
"Well, that's what they told us!"
"It was the Government! "
"We just did as ordered!"

There is nothing NEW. If you don't know the history, you won't learn from it.

Even in the Greatest Country to have ever existed, accidents happen, mistakes are made, Evil exists and things can go wrong!

Why anyone thinks they should be out shilling for this Pandemic, and selling a gmo, vaccine, to the public is mind boggling!

Where's the upside?

Any of you pro vax guys Dr's or drug salesmen? I don't see an upside in promoting this.

If you believe the stuff works, take it!

I haven't seen an antivaxxer asking to be saved.

I find it hard to believe a provaxxer, is pro 2nd Ammendment.

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It's a cult.

The minions see this as a tool to control others who dont worship at the leftist alter like they do.
 
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How about 1 out of one hundred develop a heart condition.

Drs have been saying this for a while now.
This is why nurses and healthcare professionals are refusing the shot.

The cult will ignore this and try to play it off.
 

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It's a cult.

The minions see this as a tool to control others who dont worship at the leftist alter like they do.
That's certainly a rational perspective. Yes, a cult with evildoers and an alter. It's obvious!!!

Absolutely makes more sense than accepting that large scale agriculture has compromised integrity for profit...
 

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That's certainly a rational perspective. Yes, a cult with evildoers and an alter. It's obvious!!!

Absolutely makes more sense than accepting that large scale agriculture has compromised integrity for profit...
You worship at the alter of communism.

I'm not sure how you twist commercial agriculture into justifying forced Covie shots and internment camps, but to be honest you lefties really don't follow any sort of logic.

Wait...is this that common core stuff you guys were pushing a few years ago?
 

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You worship at the alter of communism.

I'm not sure how you twist commercial agriculture into justifying forced Covie shots and internment camps, but to be honest you lefties really don't follow any sort of logic.

Wait...is this that common core stuff you guys were pushing a few years ago?
Dadeoo had shared that he too avoids food produced by commercial entities in a reply to a comment I made. I don't recall you being involved but in typical fashion here you are again. If you look back and open your eyes you should be able to figure it out. In case you can't here's the thought...

It's arguable that some non organic produce could be more of a potential health hazard than a Covid19 vaccine. The CDC has published that as of 10/6/21 there have been 3,336 reported cases of myopericarditis and pericarditis. That's out of 402,469,096 vaccinated. Now all the cases can't actually be attributed to the vaccine but 77% did completely recover so... Seems pretty safe? Mass produced round up ready crops??? ninja please.

On a somewhat related note, I saw some Old Spice products are being recalled? There may be carcinogenic toxins or some such nonsense? Anyways "heads up"...
 

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Dadeoo had shared that he too avoids food produced by commercial entities in a reply to a comment I made. I don't recall you being involved but in typical fashion here you are again. If you look back and open your eyes you should be able to figure it out. In case you can't here's the thought...

It's arguable that some non organic produce could be more of a potential health hazard than a Covid19 vaccine. The CDC has published that as of 10/6/21 there have been 3,336 reported cases of myopericarditis and pericarditis. That's out of 402,469,096 vaccinated. Now all the cases can't actually be attributed to the vaccine but 77% did completely recover so... Seems pretty safe? Mass produced round up ready crops??? ninja please.

On a somewhat related note, I saw some Old Spice products are being recalled? There may be carcinogenic toxins or some such nonsense? Anyways "heads up"...
This isnt your safe space.
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The article about Vaxxed people and myocarditis posted above is from Nature.com, which is one of the most credible and respected peer reviewed scientific journals on the planet.

You can run from the truth, but you cant hide from it.
 
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One in a hundred get myocarditis!

Well that's worse than the risks of Covid!

The other dribble about food and Roundup was evidence of the Gub lying and willingness to sacrifice/use people.

Some of the therapeutics they are testing have invermectin & hydroxychloroquine as components of the dose.

This is a circle jerk, and when the left begins to loose, they act stupid as a diversion.

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Saw a shirt yesterday that said something like "1984 jabs is the correct amount for full vaccination". Had to chuckle.
 

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So all the anti-vax fools overwhelming hospitals this year were really there for a vacation, not covid treatment?

Of course you would find it hard to belive. Your disbelief of reality has been quite obvious.

You ignored my questions above, as usual.

You ignored articles from actual experts in Nature.com.

You ignored the public articles where hospitals state they are understaffed because they fired their own staff.

Cognative dissonance is strong with the left.

It's okay...you wont need medical assistance because you got the clot shot, right?
 
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This isnt your safe space.
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The article about Vaxxed people and myocarditis posted above is from Nature.com, which is one of the most credible and respected peer reviewed scientific journals on the planet.

You can run from the truth, but you cant hide from it.
Once again you've demonstrated your propensity to look but not see. There are numerous credible sources worldwide that abjectly contradict your paranoid delusional assertions. Are they all "in on it"? Can you actually believe that 1 in 100 are suffering a serious side effect and its being "covered up"? Do you somehow feel belligerently arguing for the sake of arguing is going to change anything?

"I've got news", you may want to play that role with someone else. The ninja pajamas with a gun is a weird look.

The most recent analysis by the Harvard Medical School has it at 132 cases of myocarditis per 1,000,000 vaccinated.

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"The most recent analysis by the Harvard Medical School has it at 132 cases of myocarditis per 1,000,000 vaccinated."

EASY THERE CUZ, YOU JUST ADMITTED THERE'S A FAULT IN THE MAGIC ELIXER!

NEXT YOU'LL BE SAYING, "MAXWELL DIDN'T HANG HERSELF!"
 
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