[jocko]

I am new to Kimber, and I am extremely interested in the 10mm caliber. I have wanted one for a long time now its time to pull the trigger. Kimber has very beautiful guns. I have seen so many different models from Kimber and I need a little help, insight, advice on the best one to get. I have my sights kinda narrowed down to either stainless raptor 2 or rapide scorpius any help suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated. This would be purchased for self defense carry and target shooting. What is the factory sight picture on kimber fixed sights. I also noticed the recoil spring on the raptor 10mm is advertised at 18.5lbs while the rapide 10mm is only 12lbs. With both being 10mm why would this be so different? I have a friend tell me these guns require alot of rounds for break in. He tells me about 1000 rounds and until then they have problems. He suggested the sig p220 legion double action but i think because he is not a fan of the single action.

 

[bad ninja]

I am new to Kimber, and I am extremely interested in the 10mm caliber. I have wanted one for a long time now its time to pull the trigger. Kimber has very beautiful guns. I have seen so many different models from Kimber and I need a little help, insight, advice on the best one to get. I have my sights kinda narrowed down to either stainless raptor 2 or rapide scorpius any help suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated. This would be purchased for self defense carry and target shooting. What is the factory sight picture on kimber fixed sights. I also noticed the recoil spring on the raptor 10mm is advertised at 18.5lbs while the rapide 10mm is only 12lbs. With both being 10mm why would this be so different? I have a friend tell me these guns require alot of rounds for break in. He tells me about 1000 rounds and until them they have problems. He suggested the sig p220 legion double action but i think because he is not a fan of the single action.

I would imagine the spring weight difference is due to the difference in slide weight.
The Rapide has lightning cuts, to lighten the slide.
You friend doesn't own Kimber 10mm does he?
Some guns require a few rounds to smooth everything out, but if it has consistent problems past the first few boxes of ammo, you probably need to send it back to the factory.
If you buy one, don't shoot that cheap S&B ammo. It's weak and sometimes causes issues.
Shoot the good stuff.
I love shooting 10mm but personally wouldn't carry one. Too much recoil, which makes my follow up shots slower.
My BIL carrys a 10mm Glock, but he's 320lbs and wide as a Silverado.😎

 

[jocko]

Thanks ninja. What ammo would you suggest for break in with out breaking my wallet?

 

[2sharp2]

Agree with Ninja and will add ALL Kimber internal parts are the same for all models. Difference is exterior looks and features like checkering, ambi- safety stuff like that.
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[bad ninja]

Thanks ninja. What ammo would you suggest for break in with out breaking my wallet?

Welcome to the world of 10mm.

Sig 180 fmj is pretty consistent.

 

[jocko]

Ninja and 2sharp. Thanks for all the input. You too seem like your veterans here!

 

[DHR Darren]

I sent my camp guard back in after about 200 rounds as I didn't feel the need to burn through a bunch of ammo just to do what the factory could do on their dime. It runs like butter now.

 

[jocko]

Thanks Darren. I'm right there with you after a few hundred rounds it should be broke in and I would do the same thing to send it back to Kimber

 

[DHR Darren]

I've had guys flame me for this but if you get some really fine valve lapping compound from an old auto parts store you could strip the gun and put some of that on the slide and use that to speed the break in process and you can use a dremel to Polish the ramp but honestly you paid the money, send it back and let them do it.

 

[jocko]

Yes sir Darren. After reading several reports of gun owners sending their weapon back to Kimber that's pretty much what they've done polishing the ramp tuning the extractor and reaming the chamber. With a few exceptions of recoil springs being replaced

 

[PaulR]

Yes sir Darren. After reading several reports of gun owners sending their weapon back to Kimber that's pretty much what they've done polishing the ramp tuning the extractor and reaming the chamber. With a few exceptions of recoil springs being replaced

You will get it back the way it should have left the factory to begin with.

 

[bad ninja]

Yes sir Darren. After reading several reports of gun owners sending their weapon back to Kimber that's pretty much what they've done polishing the ramp tuning the extractor and reaming the chamber. With a few exceptions of recoil springs being replaced

Average turn around times have been 8-10 days door to door.
Part of the premium price you pay when you buy a Kimber is for their excellent customer service.

 

[DHR Darren]

As these guys have been saying, mine left my hands on a Monday and I had it back the following Monday.

 

[jocko]

Wow thats one hell of a turn around. Just kinda sucks it did not leave there the way it should in the first place. But i guess some slip through the cracks.

 

[bad ninja]

Wow thats one hell of a turn around. Just kinda sucks it did not leave there the way it should in the first place. But i guess some slip through the cracks.

Kimber makes and sells a shitload of 1911s.
Every company that produces a product will have some that slip through.
It's how they handle the issue after the sale that is important.
Kimber does a fantastic job.

 

[jocko]

Yes sir Ninja customer service is what really counts. I'm going to get one or another of these two guns but it will be after the holidays. I'm still in the research phase at the present time. Has anyone ever heard of cylinder and slides safety fast shooting system? If so any input on it?

 

[bad ninja]

Yes sir Ninja customer service is what really counts. I'm going to get one or another of these two guns but it will be after the holidays. I'm still in the research phase at the present time. Has anyone ever heard of cylinder and slides safety fast shooting system? If so any input on it?

That's a no from me, dawg

If you want a gun with a decocker, do not buy a 1911.
1911s are incredibly safe if carried properly.
They are designed to be carried in condition 1.
Cocked and Locked.
There are multiple safeties when properly carried this way.

When you try to make a 1911 into a "not a 1911" by messing with the hammer and safety system, you are asking for trouble.
And I hope to God no one is carrying one of those bastardized guns.


Edited to add:
What is it with these decocker things?
That's twice in two days this abomination of a workaround has come up here.

 

[jocko]

Ninja this would be my first 1911. The cocked and locked is something to get used to. But i guess it's mind over matter.

 

[2sharp2]

Cocked and locked has been working for decades, they work best in conjunction with the big melon on top of your shoulders.

 

[DHR Darren]

Ninja this would be my first 1911. The cocked and locked is something to get used to. But i guess it's mind over matter.

There is no finer handgun on earth than a 1911.
You will wish you had gotten one sooner.