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I have had this discussion with many of my "Carry" friends and all seem to have a different answer.
If we get pulled over for anything by a LEO, are we required to tell them that we have a loaded firearm{never say gun} and a permit to carry?
I personally think I should but part of me thinks it's none of their business..

Your feedback please..
 

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The same rule applies in Illinois, we have to state that we have a firearm. You may feel it's none of their business but if it's state law and you don't follow it ................... you lose.
 

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The same rule applies in Illinois, we have to state that we have a firearm. You may feel it's none of their business but if it's state law and you don't follow it ................... you lose.
Our instructor when we took our class told us that Missouri doesn't require it but on the other hand I wouldn't want to piss a LEO off by not telling him.

I would like to hear from some of the current/retired LEO's on the forum on this.
 

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Not required in Florida, and I never do. I don't tell them I have a wallet either, or sunglasses, or anything else.

It is different in each state though, so know the laws of the state you are in.
 

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I have had this discussion with many of my "Carry" friends and all seem to have a different answer.
If we get pulled over for anything by a LEO, are we required to tell them that we have a loaded firearm{never say gun} and a permit to carry?
I personally think I should but part of me thinks it's none of their business..

Your feedback please..
Our instructor when we took our class told us that Missouri doesn't require it but on the other hand I wouldn't want to piss a LEO off by not telling him.

I would like to hear from some of the current/retired LEO's on the forum on this.

OK, is this the Vodka or Johnny Walker talking, you state in your first post that "your required to tell them" and in the second "it doesn't require it?"

I would find out exactly what the law states and follow it.
 

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I got stopped by the Ohio State Patrol about a year ago. Ohio law requires you to tell them immediately that you are carrying (agree never say weapon). I was on my way to the range and was armed more heavily then the Trooper. He never asked for my permit. He just said thank you, looked at all my gun cases and asked where I was going. I told him the range. He handed me back my drivers license and told me to watch my speed, and to have fun. No ticket and a pleasant experience with an LEO.
 

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Our instructor when we took our class told us that Missouri doesn't require it but on the other hand I wouldn't want to piss a LEO off by not telling him.

I would like to hear from some of the current/retired LEO's on the forum on this.
As a common courtesy I will tell them.I know that having been an officer I appreciated being told if someone was armed.It's just a courtesy,nothing more.
 

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Neither..School nite..Read it again.I said "Are we required"..
Then you've answered your own question, follow the law. This from a guy that broke the law for 35 years in the most anti gun city in the union.
 

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Took my class about a month ago now...

Instructor was... meh.

One thing he was very clear on though was... if you are stopped, and have a gun "On or about your person" or "Concealed in the vehicle" you MUST notify the officer and show your permit.
 

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In AZ it is an offense to not clearly and honestly answer disclose that you are armed when asked by LE. If you have a CC permit (not required) and I run a drivers license check, it will tell me if you have a permit too. It is the likely I will ask for sure.

When stopped it is wise to put both hands on the wheel or out the window and not move them until asked. If you have weapons in the vehicle or on your person it is best to advise before moving your hands because each officer is different on how he will proceed on the issue and a quick furtive move may result in a muzzle in your ear.

Gun related paraphernalia should lead to the question as well. Remember that officer do not who they are stopping and what they may have just done that not known to us but the driver/suspect thinks we do.

Sometimes you are being stopped because your car fits the description of someone we are looking for.

Though it may be your right to not disclose until asked (if required by law), it is not the prudent thing to do. Most officers have no issue with law biding folks having guns.

Law biding folks also get nervous when stopped and though I always ask if there are weapons, I have had them innocently say no, forgetting it was in the glovebox. Then they open it to reach in for the registration and well you can guess at the reactions that might occur.
 

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Here in the NY penitentiary you don't have to. if the registered owner is driving they already know that you have or don't have a ccp. as for myself as Mike says hands on the wheel and inform them of my weapon..
 

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The single theme that is developing is that there is no universal law requiring anyone to disclose their possession of a weapon. Each state writes their own laws. What is universal is that the legally armed citizen is required to know and understand the laws of the state they are in. Not just the state from which the permit was issued.

Concealed Carry Permit Information By State

Handgunlaw.us

Here are two good sources for information. Keep in mind, reciprocity DOES NOT mean the individual states laws are identical. There are variations everywhere.
 

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Georgia does not require disclosure and does not maintain a database tied to your registration. On July 1 it will become official law they the State will not maintain a database of CWL holders.

However, keeping your hands on TOP of the steering wheel until you are asked to present your license is a good idea. A friendly greeting and polite conversation with a "BTW, I am armed and have a permit" thrown in couldn't hurt.
 

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Utah doesn't force you to tell the LEO but if you don't the LEO has the right to assume a defensive position. I have been known to surpass the speed limit from time to time and even with my radar sensor I have been pulled over a few times. I always inform the LEO of my firearms location, and show them my ccw. They usually chat with me about guns for a few minutes, tell me to slow down, and then leave. I pick my battles in life, and LEO's have a dangerous job. I'm on their side.
 

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We are not required by law to inform an officer that we are carrying here in Georgia. However, my personal choice is to keep my hands on the steering wheel and inform the officer when he gets to my door that, "I am legally armed"! That lets him know that I have a weapons license and makes no mention of "gun, firearm or weapon".:eek::eek::eek: I do not wish to cause any undo stress. I know that LEO's have a dangerous job and I am grateful for what they do. Therefore, I choose to inform them as a courtesy. YMMV
 

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I agree with what Mike240 said. A close friend is an Officer here, and that is what he told me I should do if ever stopped. He also said to remember that I am legally carrying, and NOT breaking the law by doing so. It is moot point though because in Kansas your CCW permit number is the same as your drivers license number. My friend said that when he calls in your plate the dispatcher will respond "John Doe, no wants or warrants, CCW holder." So the Officer knows walking to the car that I am likely armed, so it is best to inform him so up front.
 

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In OK we are req'd to immediately state that we are carrying. I've been stopped several times for "slightly" exceeding the posted limit. I verbally state that I am carrying on my right hip and that my DL and CCW license are in my billfold which is in my right hip pocket. I've never had a problem with any LEO while I'm carrying.

A few years back, a guy ran a stop sign in front of me. I "T-boned" his Explorer or Expedition (I can't remember) in the right door where his son was sitting. I was driving a '85 K5 Blazer. Thankfully no one was seriously injured, but it totalled both trucks. LEO's worked the scene, we were waiting for the ramp trucks to take our vehicles away when it finally dawned on me that I had a .357 snubby in my front pocket. I told the LEO that I was shaken from the accident and that I just remembered that I hadn't told him. I asked if he wanted to see my CCW license, he said "Thanks for telling me, but don't worry about it."
 

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Though it's not a requirement here in Ga. I feel like it's not a bad thing to advise and be as helpful as possible while stopped for speeding etc. if you wish. I have and have not with the same result since I'm law abiding, well except for speeding. I got pulled over by evil con evil once for heavy tint, I told him nothing, he ran my tag, came back and asked if I was armed, I said yes. He asked where my firearm was, I said in the door next to me, he asked if he could secure it while he wrote me a ticket for his safety and I hesitatently complied. I did say if he scratches it he buys it. He smiled and wrote the ticket. 15$ for 30% over tint limit. I thought afterwards, xxxxxxx doughnut eater, but I also thought of the long draw out waste of time and breath it could have been for making him mad and telling him no. Cops are individuals and react differently. Pic your battles.

I've also had cops enjoy in talking about my 1911 compared to their duty glock, examined both and had a pleasant and progressive conversation about the 2nd without fear of each other's action and zero paranoia.
 
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