[bad ninja]

Is that just a spring in the trigger that forces it to reset fast?

No.
No springs.
It uses a separate notch in the selector design to trip the disconnector when the bolt returns, to force the reset of the trigger so it can be pulled again very very quickly.
It simulates full auto better than you can imagine.
You need to see/shoot one.

In an AR, it can turn money into noise at a faster rate than a full auto M16.


Here is a quick short video by some random guy, who isn't advertising it, and barely knows what he's doing.
Check out the rate of fire.

 

[bad ninja]

Machine guns have always been legal as long as you pay a tax to the king. When the NFA was written $200 was alot of money, so only wealthy people could own them.

But ..when machine guns were regulated, the know-it-alls in government were very specific in defining what constitutes a machine gun.
That bit them in the ass, because the FRT doesn't meet that threshold.
☺

 

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Gracias for the explanation Ninja, wow really no reason for a full auto with that little devise.

Yes.



"Fu@# the King."

 

[bad ninja]

I'm guessing you can still fire slowly with that installed for target practice?

The new 3 position one have safe/semi/forced reset. Just like the real thing.
😎

 

[bad ninja]

Full auto M16: $40k

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1088973738

FRT: $550

Drop in.

FRT Triggers 3 Position FRT Trigger with Ambi Safety Selector

www.deltateamtactical.com

 

[bad ninja]

Does anyone make a forced reset trigger that actually works with an AR .22LR?

Everything I've seen on the Net has been a struggle for the owner to get it to work with different bolt weights and what all else. Even when it 'works' it requires the operator to stick out their tongue and one foot in the air while holding the rifle perfectly or it will pop a couple rounds and stop.

The struggle is with those $59 AIM special BCGs.
Use a mil spec BCG.
Also.. you will need anti-walk pins.
These aren't for the a novice Bubba Smith.
There is also a small learning curve.

It's for turning money into noise and generating smiles.
I have a binary in an MP5k clone that does the same thing, but slower.

 

[bad ninja]

.22lr FRT

 

[bad ninja]

Ninja, the questions was:



Your second reply vid. Thanks. Yeah, I've seen that video. Like I said, I've never seen one that the owner didn't struggle with. Was just curious is there were any designed to actually work with an AR .22LR.

Once it's set up right it should run as well as your rimfire ammo.

I mean, it's $500-ish VS an NFA device.
If you want to go Brrrrrrt, the juice is definitely worth the squeeze.

Shit, I want a Hoffman Super safety and a Lee Sporting Lower for my other MP5 clone now that fun switches are back on the menu.

😃

 

[bad ninja]

Ninja, the questions was:



Your second reply vid. Thanks. Yeah, I've seen that video. Like I said, I've never seen one that the owner didn't struggle with. Was just curious is there were any designed to actually work with an AR .22LR.

Keep in mind they were available for a short time, then the ATF made them illegal...and they have only been back on the market for a short time.
Surely they will sort out a .22 FRT.

 

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Absolutely!

I suppose a binary would be fun but a working forced reset would be a lot better. I just don't want to make a second career out of trying to make it work.... I'd end up throwing the damn thing into the woods.

I did a little digging.


This is makes the .22lr bcg mimic a mil spec BCG and trip the sear, so it will work with a FRT.

It's adjustable so you can tune it.
If you can replace an AR trigger you can install and tune this.


So this:

Adjustable Super Safety Trip Kit - BoreBuddy

Unlock your AR22's full potential! Our durable, adjustable Super Safety Trip Kit delivers superior reliability and enhanced performance.

borebuddy.com

And the FRT
Gets you this:

 

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Which trigger is that Phil?
There are several different ones from several different manufacturers.

The older FRT videos aren't the same product as the FRT-15-3 or the Hoffman Super Safety ( which isn't a trigger).


They also aren't originally designed to work with a .22lr.
Run .223 and there isn't an issue.

They definitely aren't for everyone, and definitely are not meant for a novice

They are also $30,000 less than an M16 and don't need a stamp 😃

 

[bad ninja]

Hence the original question:

Sorry I went sideways a bit.

No.
They are not any that are "specifically" designed to work with a .22lr AR-15.

But there are several that will work with a .22lr AR-15.
😃

It's a compromise for sure, but so is rimfire ammo and so are rimfire "ARs" as they use a blowback rather than gas operated system to cycle the rounds.
It's not the trigger that's the problem, it's the .22lr blowback system and the rimfire BGC.


Without arguing the minutiae of the AR platform, yes they will work with a .22lr AR with a little tuning.

They are a fraction of the price of a full auto rifle, and have no paperwork.
It's mean to be a range toy for tinkerers, as you'll need to install it yourself.

I'm more excited about the dismissal of the infringement, and the acknowledgement from the AFT that they are legal.

I'm still looking at the HSS, which is only about $200 all in.

That's cheap money to lay down suppressive hate faster than a belt fed SAW and every gun owner should smile at the announcement that they are not regulated Machine guns.

 

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Welcome to the forum.

That would be a violation of a settlement they agreed to, in order to avoid going to a court decision.
If it had went to court the ATF would have lost and the NFA would have been gutted, and ruled unconstitutional.
Which it is.

Shall not be infringed.