Is that just a spring in the trigger that forces it to reset fast?

 

No.
No springs.
It uses a separate notch in the selector design to trip the disconnector when the bolt returns, to force the reset of the trigger so it can be pulled again very very quickly.
It simulates full auto better than you can imagine.
You need to see/shoot one.

In an AR, it can turn money into noise at a faster rate than a full auto M16.


Here is a quick short video by some random guy, who isn't advertising it, and barely knows what he's doing.
Check out the rate of fire.

 

Machine guns have always been legal as long as you pay a tax to the king. When the NFA was written $200 was alot of money, so only wealthy people could own them.

But ..when machine guns were regulated, the know-it-alls in government were very specific in defining what constitutes a machine gun.
That bit them in the ass, because the FRT doesn't meet that threshold.
☺

 

Gracias for the explanation Ninja, wow really no reason for a full auto with that little devise.

 

Yes.



"Fu@# the King."

 

I'm guessing you can still fire slowly with that installed for target practice?

 

The new 3 position one have safe/semi/forced reset. Just like the real thing.
😎

 

Full auto M16: $40k

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1088973738

FRT: $550

Drop in.

FRT Triggers 3 Position FRT Trigger with Ambi Safety Selector

www.deltateamtactical.com

 

Is the over/under hours or days before Arland has one headed his direction?

 

Does anyone make a forced reset trigger that actually works with an AR .22LR?

Everything I've seen on the Net has been a struggle for the owner to get it to work with different bolt weights and what all else. Even when it 'works' it requires the operator to stick out their tongue and one foot in the air while holding the rifle perfectly or it will pop a couple rounds and stop.

 

If they do make a reset AR 22 trigger we’re gonna have to do another 5,000 round ammo buy!!

 

.22lr FRT

 

There's a guy who apparently went to great lengths to chart information on those getting FRT to work with .22s. Bore Buddy was near universally used on the chart. It was in a long discussion thread on arf with some folks successful and others exasperated at trying to get the trigger to work.

Below is one of the posts to give folks here a flavor of what I'm talking about when I ask if anyone is making a trigger that actually works in a .22lr.

I consider the below self-induced torture.

"The absolute best results that I had were with the BB aluminum lightweight bolt body, 2(Lg) tungsten weights + 1 (Sm) tungsten weight + 1 (Sm) aluminum weight, BB adjustable trip set to 0.004" max bolt opening for hammer to fall, BB round firing pin with CMMG spring, BB extractor with BB 200% spring, CMMG factory recoil spring, BB pressure plug installed, BB bolt buffer REMOVED, FRT-15 trigger in it's original factory configuration, and using CCI Mini Mag ammo. This combination resulted in one full magazine being shot with only one failure about mid mag. That only happened once. The remainder of testing with that setup and Mini Mags resulted in 5 to 7 shot strings between failures and plenty of single-shots.

The biggest frustration with all of it is the lack of any perceivable consistency. Just when I thought that I was getting somewhere the results would change.

Anyway, if new accounts are able to post items for sale I'll be listing these triggers and Bore Buddy adjustable trips for sale very, very soon."

 

Which trigger is that Phil?
There are several different ones from several different manufacturers.

The older FRT videos aren't the same product as the FRT-15-3 or the Hoffman Super Safety ( which isn't a trigger).


They also aren't originally designed to work with a .22lr.
Run .223 and there isn't an issue.

They definitely aren't for everyone, and definitely are not meant for a novice

They are also $30,000 less than an M16 and don't need a stamp 😃

 

Which trigger is that Phil?
There are several different ones from several different manufacturers.

The older FRT videos aren't the same product as the FRT-15-3 or the Hoffman Super Safety ( which isn't a trigger).


They also aren't originally designed to work with a .22lr.
Run .223 and there isn't an issue.

They definitely aren't for everyone, and definitely are not meant for a novice

They are also $30,000 less than an M16 and don't need a stamp 😃

Hence the original question:

Was just curious is there were any designed to actually work with an AR .22LR.

 

Sorry I went sideways a bit.

No.
They are not any that are "specifically" designed to work with a .22lr AR-15.

But there are several that will work with a .22lr AR-15.
😃

It's a compromise for sure, but so is rimfire ammo and so are rimfire "ARs" as they use a blowback rather than gas operated system to cycle the rounds.
It's not the trigger that's the problem, it's the .22lr blowback system and the rimfire BGC.


Without arguing the minutiae of the AR platform, yes they will work with a .22lr AR with a little tuning.

They are a fraction of the price of a full auto rifle, and have no paperwork.
It's mean to be a range toy for tinkerers, as you'll need to install it yourself.

I'm more excited about the dismissal of the infringement, and the acknowledgement from the AFT that they are legal.

I'm still looking at the HSS, which is only about $200 all in.

That's cheap money to lay down suppressive hate faster than a belt fed SAW and every gun owner should smile at the announcement that they are not regulated Machine guns.

 

I can certainly appreciate the fact they're no longer regulated. Hell, I've been waiting over six months on a Form1 stamp.

 

I ordered mine from https://rarebredtriggers.org/ a while back and had no problems at all. Shipping was faster than I expected, and the trigger fit just fine without any tweaking. I went back and grabbed another one for a buddy after he saw how well mine ran. So far, no hiccups, and it's been fun to use at the range.

 

Welcome to the forum.

That would be a violation of a settlement they agreed to, in order to avoid going to a court decision.
If it had went to court the ATF would have lost and the NFA would have been gutted, and ruled unconstitutional.
Which it is.

Shall not be infringed.