Greetings! I'm pursuing either a Kimber 380 micro or a Sig P238. for inside the pants pocket carry. I won't bore ya'll with why these two are the only finalists. After all, since I'm asking for owner comments ya'll have made similar decisions, right?
I'm interested in the Kimber for only two reason that the Sig doesn't address; I prefer the looks of the polished slide & aluminum frame w/Rosewood grips, and the Kimber is lighter. But that interest is offset with a seeming mountain of reasons to run from Kimber. Micro owners, I seek your comments:
1) I only know one person w/a Kimber 1911. We call it the "Jam-o-Matic". (just saying)
2) I'm not sure I want to spend money w/Leslie Edelman. (Guess not much to comment on)
3) While the internet is awash in complaints by its nature, the amount of negative customer experiences w/the micro seem to be overwhelming. (I'm asking Micro owners for their out of the box experience.)
4)Recoil springs appear to last just slightly longer than a banana's shelf life. (How many of you are using the P238 spring? Does that get you 800+ rounds with total confidence?)
5) What's this about "my Micro doesn't feed XYZ ammo"?? My azz. I know Glock and Smith have spoiled me, but this isn't gonna be a safe queen, and I don't want to own a gun that has a princess complex. (Can one be made to run any reasonable choice of ammo with 99.9% reliability?)
6) I require a green Crimson Trace grip active laser that mounts in front of the trigger. This is due shortly for the Sig. (Anybody know if the Sig trigger mount laser fits the Micro? Its been shipping in red for years. CT seems to not know.)
7) The anti-Kimber sentiment about Kimber of today, from gun quality (so not just the Micro) to customer service is almost visceral. They appear to have been a quality gun once, now maybe not (I'm asking Micro owners for their customer service experience, and their confidence that after being worked on once by the "custom" shop it became a combat class weapon. Combat being any new ammo, any time, any conditions, 99.9% of the time.)
My apologies for the negative sounding email, I can only say I'm attempting to give the Micro a break that research suggests it's not due.
My thanks!
Fish
I'm interested in the Kimber for only two reason that the Sig doesn't address; I prefer the looks of the polished slide & aluminum frame w/Rosewood grips, and the Kimber is lighter. But that interest is offset with a seeming mountain of reasons to run from Kimber. Micro owners, I seek your comments:
1) I only know one person w/a Kimber 1911. We call it the "Jam-o-Matic". (just saying)
2) I'm not sure I want to spend money w/Leslie Edelman. (Guess not much to comment on)
3) While the internet is awash in complaints by its nature, the amount of negative customer experiences w/the micro seem to be overwhelming. (I'm asking Micro owners for their out of the box experience.)
4)Recoil springs appear to last just slightly longer than a banana's shelf life. (How many of you are using the P238 spring? Does that get you 800+ rounds with total confidence?)
5) What's this about "my Micro doesn't feed XYZ ammo"?? My azz. I know Glock and Smith have spoiled me, but this isn't gonna be a safe queen, and I don't want to own a gun that has a princess complex. (Can one be made to run any reasonable choice of ammo with 99.9% reliability?)
6) I require a green Crimson Trace grip active laser that mounts in front of the trigger. This is due shortly for the Sig. (Anybody know if the Sig trigger mount laser fits the Micro? Its been shipping in red for years. CT seems to not know.)
7) The anti-Kimber sentiment about Kimber of today, from gun quality (so not just the Micro) to customer service is almost visceral. They appear to have been a quality gun once, now maybe not (I'm asking Micro owners for their customer service experience, and their confidence that after being worked on once by the "custom" shop it became a combat class weapon. Combat being any new ammo, any time, any conditions, 99.9% of the time.)
My apologies for the negative sounding email, I can only say I'm attempting to give the Micro a break that research suggests it's not due.
My thanks!
Fish